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[Hunter][Spell][Bug]Bestial Wrath is no longer castable while the Hunter's pet is target of a crowd control effect #2161

Open siuo opened 11 years ago

siuo commented 11 years ago

http://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=90905 14:34 pet is sleeped and he uses BW.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t18zu_6Te1I&feature=player_embedded 6:38 pet in trap and he uses BW


"Bestial Wrath and The Beast Within Changed to function like PvP Trinkets, removing any movement impairing effects, and giving immunity to these effects for 10 seconds.", also the tooltip doesn't say this, but it now breaks all forms of CC that a PvP trinket would break (including Cyclone,Sap, etc.).

means that prior to patch 3.2.2 it didnt act like this.

my response: THE BEAST WITHIN didnt work like an insignia for the hunter cause you couldnt use BESTIAL WRATH when the HUNTER got cced -----> 3.2.2 it is an insignia but you can use BESTIAL WRATH when the PET got cced ---> insignie for the pet since tbc.

source: http://www.wow-one.com/forum/topic/34747--/

warlee commented 11 years ago

No ability in game is able to break the cyclone (only trinket), so I guess thats an exception.

Databasegm commented 11 years ago

Patch 2.1 notes: Bestial Wrath: The immunity granted by this ability now lasts the full duration of the ability. Bestial Wrath now grants immunity to Cyclone. Cyclone will no longer prevent the immunities from being granted.

warlee commented 11 years ago

But that doesnt mean that Bestial Wrath is castable in cyclone? Its same with Ice Block/Bubble. If you are in cyclone you cant cast IB/Bubble, but if cyclone is casted on bubble/ice block, you are immune to it.

siuo commented 11 years ago

No it is like Bubble.

If your pet or you is cycloned you cant! use bestial wrath

but it breaks every other cc!

warlee commented 11 years ago

That is exactly what I mean

siuo commented 11 years ago

Yes^^

I tried to find some other videos but it's very difficult cause there aren't many BM videos out there.

Mofoleone commented 11 years ago

Patch 2.1.0 (2007-05-22): The immunity granted by Bestial Wrath now lasts the full duration of the ability. It also now grants immunity to Cyclone.

Patch 3.2.2 (2009-09-22): "Bestial Wrath and The Beast Within Changed to function like PvP Trinkets, removing any movement impairing effects, and giving immunity to these effects for 10 seconds.", also the tooltip doesn't say this, but it now breaks all forms of CC that a PvP trinket would break (including Cyclone,Sap, etc.).

There we go.

Also to add to those videos:

First video 14:34 pet was under sleep and there is no clear view @ rogue, maybe range throw or something but needs better proof then this

Second video 6:38 enemy hunter died, so pet is out of trap and he can use it. Since when you CC someone and say die after second or two, that CC is broken.

siuo commented 11 years ago

There is a difference between breaking sth and granting immunity.

breaking = u can use it DURING the cyclone = like an insignia

granting immunity = u use it and can't be cycloned.

in MOP it works like an insignia for example. it breaks every crowd control effect on you. in TBC it grants immunity.

siuo commented 11 years ago

hope this is enough prove

Hornox commented 11 years ago

siuo is right, BW breaks all but cyclone

zyde commented 11 years ago

In the first video, the sleep effect is not interrupted by damage, it is broken by Bestial Wrath. The pet unitframe does not display any damage taken (as you can for example see @11:50, look at the pet portrait).

Also, in this movie ( http://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=82133 ), you can see at 5:30 that the hunter is affected by Cheap Shot by rogue, and then breaks it with Bestial Wrath in less than a second. No trinket it used.

siuo commented 11 years ago

any news? really gamebreaking against brained double dps.

Mofoleone commented 11 years ago

There are way more stuff that are gamebreaking also in line, so just lay back and wait :)

siuo commented 11 years ago

Aha and why do these guys change sth without any blizzlike prove?

who are you ingame mofoleone?

devastator commented 11 years ago

http://old.wowhead.com/spell=19574/bestial-wrath#comments

By DrDrako (460 – 5·13) on 2008/06/26 (Patch 2.4.2) Just a tip to all hunters. Do not use this when sapped. save it for cheap shot, or if the rogue garrotes, kidney shot. Many a time I've seen a hunter BW out of sap, then have it fade before the rogue does anything. Ghakor on 2008/08/29 (Patch 2.4.3) I think the stupidity of BW to break sap would be right up there with using your Trinket on a sap.

By Sabelan (330 – 4) on 2008/06/27 (Patch 2.4.2) No one has mentioned this so I will, not only is it immunity but while IN stun you can break out and I believe the same goes for fear, but you can't get out while polymorphed.

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=34692/the-beast-within

By ZealotTheAloof (390 – 3·2) on 2008/01/21 (Patch 2.3.2) This is pretty much 'I win button' against rogues, mages, warlocks, priests, druids and shamans. Be careful though, avoid using it as an opener against paladins and possibly, discipline priests as they can bubble/pain suppress out of it pretty much. Also try to use it only in critical situations, unless you are fighting against a SP or warlock who can instantly fear you as beast within only makes you immune to fear but does not break it. I also recommend making a macro: AP trinket + Bestial Wrath. My pet crits for over a thousand when both my trinket and BW are up.

2.2 Patch Notes

Zabba commented 10 years ago

There's enough proof here. Looking into it.

Zabba commented 10 years ago

This is.... horrendous to fix.

Bestial wrath is not castable while the player is CC'd unless the player has The Beast Within talent.

For any developers -- this is POSSIBLY handled client side or by the dummy spell 34692. Looking into it. I have tried brute forcing the cast but its DEFINITELY handled client side making this quite tricky.