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[Hunter] [Talant] Improved Stings #2556

Open Nihilia opened 11 years ago

Nihilia commented 11 years ago

Issue:

Hunter talant, Improved Stings [ID: 19464 - 19468] grants way more than 30% (around 60-70%) dispell chance reduction. Tests 50 times with druid and Viper/Poison stings. Out of those samples only 7 stings were dispelled in first cure cast (Abolish Poison), other varied from 2 up to 5! casts to dispell them. That cleary not representing 70% chance dispeller should have after hunter's 5/5 points investment.

Opposite situation was tested with Arcane Shot on druid HoTs (same 30% talant on druid side) and it worked as should, most HoTs (or any other magical buff) were dispelled on first shot.

How it should be:

Improved Stings should reduces the chance your Stings will be dispelled by 30%.

warlee commented 11 years ago

Confirmed with tests on Live

Doppelmoral commented 11 years ago

Cannot reproduce on PTR or PLTR.

Did multiple testings with shaman (Cure Poison, Poison Cleansing Totem) and druid (Abolish Poison) against hunters with and without Improved Stings. 30% resistance is about right.

devastator commented 11 years ago

I think there is something wrong with this overall. I tested it some time ago with Druid Cure Poison, the overall chance was about 30, may be a bit more, but I had like many casts dispelled with the first cure, and some casts took much more, had even casts that I couldn't dispel at all for the duration (taking more than 6-7 cure casts)

Nihilia commented 11 years ago

Thats why i said that odds are higher than 30% and are around 60% (i'm pretty sure there was tooltip 30+30 misleading stack). From mathematical point of view, chances on not dispelling sting on 3rd try with 30% resistance are exacly 2,7%, just bear that in mind while testing.

Templar3 commented 11 years ago

I did test as paladin to measure the succes rate of cleanse of hunters viper sting. 25 viper sting casted (5/5 improved stings talent) Succesfully dispelled by 1st cast 10 times 2nd cast 8 times 3rd cast 1 times !!!!!!!!!!! 4th cast 3 times !!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!! 5th cast 2 times !!!!!!!!!!! 6th cast 1 times ---> this mean it cant dispelled before the sting expired

No way it shouldn`t be removed by 4th or 5th dispell attempt at 30% reduced dispell chance.

For arena it is gamebreaking versus druids, priest, paladins.