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Shard of Azzinoth proc #3533

Open endemol88 opened 9 years ago

endemol88 commented 9 years ago

When elemental summoned he much weaker than it should be. Source: 1) http://www.wowwiki.com/Shard_of_Azzinoth 2) http://www.wowhead.com/npc=23192/ember-of-azzinoth#comments 3) http://www.wowhead.com/item=32471/shard-of-azzinoth#comments For first we need to determine what patch corresponds Shard of Azzinoth. This actual and work fine: Patch 2.4.2 (2008-05-13): no longer shares any cooldown with Shaman elemental totems. "By asna (890 – 5·5) on 2008/07/16 (Patch 2.4.3)
Changed from Normal damage to fire damage + the dps is lowerd in 2.4.3" - Now he make Physical dmg and this damage is terrible low

Issues: 1) Damage: here movie i made http://youtu.be/7Sb0wA4UiMI look at first damage when Ember of Azzinoth appear - it's 11! People say Ember of Azzinoth must do ~3 000 damage per proc - 15 sec (look wowhead link above) max damage i see 90 :-D Now elem hit 8 times (once when appear and 1 hit per 2 sec) and disappear. Even with ~50 damage it 400 damage... 2) Multiple proc: "asna on 2008/05/18 (Patch 2.4.2) I got this dagger some days before 2.4.2 and i got 1 proc time to time. but now in 2.4.2 i have gotten 2 procs under 15 secs so i have had 2 embers up figting whit me. I even got 2 embers by normal hit and then by windfury i got a second one. Both died at the same time. Duel 2 procs Raiding and 2 procs" I personally used this dagger in WoTLK and I can say that the creatures could be several. Now every proc replace Ember of Azzinoth.

teddys commented 9 years ago

Need more info about the damage... there is no reliable source for how it should be.

endemol88 commented 9 years ago

Ok. ~115 damage in 2.4 patch on illidan, who have 7700 armor = 42% damage reduction, considering debuffs: 2600 (Sunder Armor), 610 (Faerie Fire), 800 (Curse of Recklessness)/ Total: -4010. 7700-4010=3690 and it's 25% damage reduction. If Ember hit ~115 so his attack ~153 minimal average damage in 2.4 patch. Even with scatter 100-200 damage as you can see he hit just 11. Mb attack right now, but he must hit fire damage with armor ignoring in 2.4.3. I agree with 700-900 damage per proc but now he dit ~300 dmg (on video 11+40+34+dodge+42+40+52+37=256 damage) Also multi proc - look at this funny situation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z_p_c4KYvM KJD take rogue in MC an Embers of Azzinoth wipe raid :-D

teddys commented 9 years ago

As I said .. you did not provide any sufficient proof about how much damage it should do and I could not find anything on wowhead either.

kildrazien commented 9 years ago

I was browsing Wowhead and found some screenshots of what damage you might expect:

Quote from Backmask (http://www.wowhead.com/item=32471/shard-of-azzinoth)

"In 3.01 the ember's damage is going back to the way it was before. (or scales with attack power but I'm not sure which) http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u283/Stumpythemagicmuffin/WoWScrnShot_091508_181553.jpg" image

Since this comment was posted in patch 2.4.3 on retail, I feel like it is reputable It is also worth mentioning that currently this dagger is less useful than Fang of Vashj due to the low damage of the proc. The stat allocation of the item is obviously being spent by the proc, and the strength of the proc does not make up for the amount of stats it is missing.

kildrazien commented 9 years ago

Some more information i gleaned:

http://forums.elitistjerks.com/topic/26010-pve-dps-wotlk-discussion/?p=938695

http://forums.elitistjerks.com/topic/26010-pve-dps-wotlk-discussion/?p=938538

dangreenberggit commented 9 years ago

So in 2.4, for some reason, the the Ember should be hitting for about 130-160 fire damage? From the 2.4 sources provided, that appears to be the case even though it used to be physical. It's a shame that Blizzard--in its infinite wisdom--did not put this in patch notes.

The Wowhead comment that directly discusses 2.4.3: "The damage the ember does in 2.4.3 is much less than what it used to. I compared it's damage on a few wws's I had. 2.4.2 over 6 min 19 sec it dealt 13,040 physical damage. 92 hits. Avg 123 2.4.3 over 5 min 36 sec it dealt 6,064 fire damage. 65 hits. Avg 87"

Current situation: Ember hits for about 41 average non-crit physical damage on Master's Target Dummy. Desires situation: Ember should hit for about 87 fire damage.

endemol88 commented 9 years ago

thx guys, now it looks good with proofs

kildrazien commented 8 years ago

One other issue with Ember of Azzinoth, Currently the dagger is not capable of summoning more than 1 ember at a time. If there is already an ember alive and a new one is summoned, the old one disappears prematurely. To reproduce:

Create a troll rogue Add Shard of Azzinoth Create a Master's training dummy Attack the training dummy and observe It might help to get as many haste effects on the rogue as possible

devidao commented 8 years ago

One other issue with Ember of Azzinoth, Currently the dagger is not capable of summoning more than 1 ember at a time. If there is already an ember alive and a new one is summoned, the old one disappears prematurely. To reproduce:

Create a troll rogue Add Shard of Azzinoth Create a Master's training dummy Attack the training dummy and observe It might help to get as many haste effects on the rogue as possible

Fixed, now can be summoned more than one guardian. Coming soon on PTR

Zerixx commented 8 years ago

BUMP! Let's get this on PTR/Live asap.