Talent - Nature's Grace

[ernsss12]

Hello.

Druid talent "Nature's Grace" in balance tree should give the caster 0.5 sec reduced cast time on the next spell after a spell critical strike.

If the druid has no haste rating Starfire goes from 3 seconds to 2.5 seconds with Nature's grace as it should.

However, if you have haste rating it doesnt reduce casting time by 0.5 sec. For example. If the druid has 250 haste rating it goes down by only 0.45 seconds. And wrath even less than that.

It seems like the issue is that Nature's Grace is reducing cast time with some amount of %.

Have anyone else thought about this issue?

Can any developer check this out?

Best regards

[deathstreal]

Nice find, should be easy to reproduce. To make it clearer for any dev that may read; Nature's Grace apparently scales with Spell Haste, but it is a negative effect.

[lajhar]

Report Confirmed. Spell haste rating affects the amount of casting time reduction of Nature's Grace.

• Create a druid
• .go creature heroic
• .learn 16880
• .learn 33370
• .cast 23434
• .cast 23434 (now you have 100% chance to crit)
• Cast Wrath on the dummy and observe it has 1,500 sec casting time
• After it crits observe the next Wrath has 1,000 sec casting time (-0,5 sec as intended)
• Cast "Spell Haste" (320 spell haste rating) and observe casting time of Wrath went down from 1,500 sec to 1,250
• Cast Wrath (wait for the crit), cast "Spell Haste", and observe the casting time of the next Wrath is 0,831 sec (only 0,419 sec reduction instead of 0,500)

Nature's Grace should have a fix 0,500 sec reduction effect.

[an-sche]

I think I've figured out why this is happening. Please correct me if I make any mistakes here.

1. I assume this is the formula used in calculating cast speeds:

Haste Value = ((Base Cast Time / Hasted Cast Time) - 1) 15.77 100 (Copied from Delinquent's Forum Post, replacing 12.85 with correct value of 15.77)

2. Without Nature's Grace: Calculate the cast time of wrath with 320 haste value and 1.5s base cast time, You receive a hasted cast time of 1.2469s. (Shown in @lajhar 's post above)

3. With Nature's Grace: Calcuate the cast time of wrath with 320 haste value and a 1s base cast time. You recieve a hasted cast time of 0.8313s. (Also shown in his test above).

What does this mean?

The Nature's Grace effect seems to be calculated on the base cast time of Wrath rather than the hasted cast time of Wrath.

So, the formula is currently:

Haste Value = (((Base Cast Time -.5s if NG) / Hasted Cast Time) - 1) 15.77 100

It should be:

Haste Value = ((Base Cast Time / (Hasted Cast Time +.5s if NG)) - 1) 15.77 100

NOTE: In the second formula it's plus instead of a minus.

EDIT: To solve for cast time C = Cast time, H = Haste percent, B = base (1.5 for wrath)

Current: C = (B - .5 if NG)/(H+1)

Should be: C = (B/(H+1)) -.5 if NG

[owlbama]

Can we expect a fix for this soon? Gimping an already shit dps spec /cry

[owlbama]

Bump

[owlbama]

Bump..

[ernsss12]

Are we expecting a fix on this soon?

Would be appreciated a lot!

[owlbama]

Fix?

[Zerixx]

Guys, this is a very deeply rooted issue, I've found. To fix this would require a substantial change. Don't count it out, but it's not something I can just fix immediately. Sorry for the bad news :(