FelixKrueger / Bismark

A tool to map bisulfite converted sequence reads and determine cytosine methylation states
http://felixkrueger.github.io/Bismark/
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Best practices for processing Lamda Phage unmethylated control data with Bismark? #361

Closed naumenko-sa closed 4 years ago

naumenko-sa commented 4 years ago

Hi Felix!

Not an issue, but I (and I hope many other users) would highly appreciate your recommendations on how to process L phage genome control WGBS data with Bismark.

One of the solutions would be to generate a combined human + phage reference genome. But in that case, % methylated for a human sample would be altered with totally unmethylated L phage reads.

Running all the reads in a sample vs L phage genome sounds more reasonable, but it also will take time (or is it very fast?).

To reduce running time, I'd think to align reads first to the human genome only, filter unaligned reads, and align them to the L phage genome.

Could you please share your best practices on how did you processed L phage control data?

Thanks!

Sergey

FelixKrueger commented 4 years ago

Hi Sergey,

As you pointed out already, you do indeed have several options here.

Lastly, I thought I would mention that some people described issues with efficient bisulfite conversion of Lambda DNA, similar to what has been described for the chr MT: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fgene.2017.00166/full. This might be useful for the downstream interpretation fo your data.

Hope this helps!

naumenko-sa commented 4 years ago

Thanks, Felix!

We created a Lamda genome and ran Bismark pipeline in bcbio starting after trimming step with 4/2/30G. It finished in 3h-19h for different samples (different nodes on a cluster have different performance). None failed.

Sergey

hchetia commented 3 years ago

Hi @FelixKrueger I am also going to follow the separate genome alignment procedure for assessing my spike in lambda genome's conversion. How can I assess the conversion rate of the control and compare to that of my actual sample?

regards, hasna

FelixKrueger commented 3 years ago

Hi @hchetia,

Yes, that't the idea behind it. As has been pointed out above and elsewhere, the spike-in control doesn't necessarily behave as a perfect control, but it is certainly worth checking!