yuotube are slow and freeze the browser

[BerserkSoul1989]

Hi there, Youtube and Reddit lag and are slow to charge on my PC, mostly Reddit.

I have Windows 7 SP1 and I'm using latest MyPal release

[Feodor2]

You want to tell you did try another browser, and there was no freeze, and why do you take mypal for win7? Did you look the readme?

[bluedragon-cairo]

why do you take mypal for win7

I actually use it too because Firefox 70+ removes many traditional and classic about:config settings (prompts.tab_modal.enabled, dom.disable_window_open_feature.*) and it's so annoying, and even newer versions (90+) changes form control skin to some ugly one instead of OS's native

[Feodor2]

@bluedragon-cairo Do you use yotube or reddid? I do not, but I check yt often and always at the new version, I did not observe a freeze. I only can tell that latest versions performance drop and more memory hungry, shell sort out when javascript update will be complete.

[bluedragon-cairo]

In XP, new versions slightly freeze but not that inconvenient. However I currently use old.reddit.com (Old reddit site) and Project VORAPIS V3 (a program that replaces the YouTube frontend to 2013 version) so it's much faster because there are no javascript abomination garbages and also it's more convenient to use with nicer look (at least for me)

[Yggdrax]

I'd recommend using an invidious/libreddit instance if you are having issues with those websites in the meantime, also @Feodor2, I don't think the issue is that they freeze, but rather that they are too slow to load and to navigate, I've also experimented performance issues with both websites, but mostly with reddit.

[Feodor2]

So if are they slow because of their nature, invdius experiences bad times today and going to disable medium format by default that, with its broken format switch, makes it unusable for me, I shall try VORAPIS / v3.

[bluedragon-cairo]

VORAPIS / v3.

For Mypal68 and Firefox Quantum: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/v3-get-old-youtube-layout/

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For Pale Moon/New Moon/Mypal 28-29: Install Greasemonkey for Pale Moon fork and https://vorapis.pages.dev/product/v3/game_service/patcher/get_latest_client_demo

[Rekrullurker]

Up until today, YouTube has been working OK for me. Today it's borderline unusable. Video pages take forever to load, and even after the page seems to be fully loaded, there's still a delay before I can start the video. Trying to use the seek bar is hopeless. Not only does it not show me a thumbnail of that position, like it was doing yesterday, but half the time it won't even move.

Switching between the normal player and fullscreen takes a good 30-45 seconds. If I scroll down, it loads the comments one at a time.

Even on the main page, when I mouse other a thumbnail, it takes a good 20-30 seconds for the pointer to change to the hand image, and then when I move off the thumbnail, it stays in the hand image, even when moving it over parts of the page that aren't clickable. Needless to say that the video previews you're supposed to get when you hover on a video aren't working. Or maybe they do, I lose patience after waiting a couple minutes.

It's like my system is bogged down with something, but only MyPal68 is affected, everything else is working fine.

My old version of Opera doesn't have any extra slowdowns, but then again, video playback is literally the only thing that works. I'd use it for watching videos if the ad skip button worked.

MyPal68 was my last, best option for a fully functional YouTube, and now for whatever reason, it's become a colossal pain in the *ss to use.

I've tried rebooting, I've tried running a clean copy of the latest version, nothing makes any difference.

[bluedragon-cairo]

Today it's borderline unusable. Video pages take forever to load

What's your CPU and RAM capacity? For me the official frontend works not so bad in Pale Moon which is normally slower than Mypal68.

Or try using the V3 frontend, in my opinion it's much faster and easier to use. If you have used YouTube since 2013 or earlier it would be friendly. If you have repetitive playback errors after about 10 seconds of playing let me know because there is a workaround.

[Feodor2]

I just looked ytube and did not notice changes, Its slow as always but usable good.

[JimMP68User]

I also notice slow-down in some YT action - click on notification bell (upper right) and it takes tens of seconds for the drop-down notification list to show up. This started a few days ago. I think it is YT behavior changes.

It might be related to my using the ad-blocker uBlock Origin maybe?

Also behavior of YT Shorts has gotten sluggish, and it takes tens of seconds for click on Like button to take effect.

Computer Dell 755 4GB memory, Win Xp SP3, Mypal 14.4b and using uBlock Origin adblocker.

All features on YT work, but, delays now when clicking on something. Yes, even on fresh re-start/open of Mypal.

Update: Some of the slowness of YT seems to have gone away. Maybe they had released some bad client-side scripts (not unheard of).

[Rekrullurker]

YouTube seems to be working much better now.

Confession: I've been using version 12.5b for a while now. I tend to not update software if what I have is working and the new version doesn't have any new features I want. When I posted my first message, this version was getting multiple "Unresponsive script" warnings on every video page.

That's when I downloaded the latest version and tried it. NO script warnings, but everything was taking forever.

Also, I occasionally had an odd problem where I would click on one thing and it would think I clicked somewhere else. I clicked a video on the front page and it opened a different video instead. The video it opened, was above the one I clicked on. Then, i clicked on the speaker control to mute the ad during an ad, and it opened the author's eshop page.

Just for the hell of it, I loaded version 12.5b tonight and it seems to be working normally. No script warnings, everything responds in a reasonable amount of time, the seek bar works, etc.

I guess it was a temporary problem with YouTube.

[bluedragon-cairo]

YouTube developers all just have loose screws these days, they don't know how to optimize JavaScript, they don't know when to use JavaScript and just overuse it everywhere, they remove useful features like playlist translations, they hide dislike counts, they only know chrome, they change site UI and decorations every time, much more

[Feodor2]

Tried the VORAPIS, it was installed, but the youtube itself do not load at all after this, then I removed the addon and it is fine again. So something is broken, but I shall bother not, no time.

[Rekrullurker]

YouTube has been working fine for me. Well...

Sometimes videos, especially shorts, will get stuck in one spot for a long time. Sometimes the video will freeze while the audio continues. If I open too many videos in tabs, my system will start thrashing my C drive, and then some of the tabs will be blank when I click on them, and then it will take a very long time and a lot of disk thrashing before the page loads.

In other words, perfectly normal behavior for YouTube.