FooSoft / yomichan

Japanese pop-up dictionary extension for Chrome and Firefox.
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[Feature Request] Allow exporting of alternative readings and kanji usages that are NOT the word #1936

Open Lolle2000la opened 3 years ago

Lolle2000la commented 3 years ago

Often, a lot of words can be expressed with many different kanji, or have different readings which may or may not have different meanings.

For example, 渡る has a lot of different kanji that can be used instead (i.e. 亘る). When using "Group related terms", a lot of them come up under the same dictionary definition. It would be helpful if I could get those without 渡る exported in a list, as it would make, among others, battling confusion between these words way easier.

On the other hand, a single word often can be read in many different ways, sometimes changing the meaning as well. When reviewing, if you only see the expression (i.e. 主), you cannot tell if it is maybe supposed to be read a certain way (i.e.おも). If it would be like "Expression: not other readings" (i.e. 主: not ぬし, しゅ, あるじ, etc.), that would be very helpful. So being able exporting a list with the other readings would be helpful.

toasted-nutbread commented 3 years ago

I am not sure I understand exactly what's being asked, so some questions:

It would be helpful if I could get those without 渡る exported in a list, as it would make, among others, battling confusion between these words way easier.

It might be helpful to take a screenshot of an example search, the output you're currently seeing, and an example of what output you'd want to see.

Lolle2000la commented 3 years ago

image This is what I see with "Result grouping mode: Group related terms". When I want to export a word not in that view, I only see this: image So far, so good. I prefer to use "Group term-reading pairs".
Now, when I press "Add expression", I would like to add the other variants to another field on my note. So my Expression field would be "渡る" and the other field would be "亘る、渉る、亙る".

Similarly, when I use Yomichan on "白金", I get image with "Group related terms", and image with "Group term-reading pairs" (there is one more reading not on the screenshot しろがね).
Now, when I press "Add expression", I would like to add the other readings on another field. So the "Reading" field would be "はっきん", while the other filed would be "しろかね、しろがね".

Notably, in both cases I would like for no other field to change. I just want to know when reviewing the item what it isn't. Because few things are as frustrating as getting asked for 白金 and 白金 and having both cases be different in reading AND meaning. So being able to customize my card to show something like "白金, not: しろかね、しろがね" would be really helpful.

toasted-nutbread commented 3 years ago

I understand now.

Such a change presents a few issues with how "related terms" are looked up.

Lolle2000la commented 3 years ago

Sorry for not replying sooner.

Personally, I think if that is only about overhead, I would not mind it for myself. I don't think I would notice if it took a bit longer for an Anki note to be generated.