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You're probably right that zuru verbs aren't handled by the deinflector, but I think this is also a problem with the dictionary format. Taking jmdict_english as the example, it has the following entry for 論ずる
:
[
"論ずる", // expression
"ろんずる", // reading
"vz vt", // definitionTags
"", // rules
713, // score
[ // glossary
"to discuss",
"to talk about",
"to deal with (a topic)"
],
1561640, // sequence
"P ichi news" // termTags
],
Note that the rules
entry is empty, and in order for it to be used with deinflection, it would need to contain a verb type. In this case, it would probably need to be 'vz'
. Since this dictionary info was probably created using yomichan-import, @FooSoft: do you think supporting -zuru requires a change to that?
Yomichan's deinflector currently uses 'v1', 'v5', 'vs', 'vk', 'adj-i'
, and if I am understanding correctly, may need to be expanded to include a 'vz'
.
Some references for my testing purposes:
Very interesting, will have to check the JMDICT source dictionary data. If it is there, then it is an importer bug.
Friendly reminder @FooSoft, if you find an opportunity to look into this and fix the issue (assuming it is one), that may be a good time to update the Yomichan dictionaries available on the site. (#834)
Is 論ざれる the correct form for presumably "passive"? I've found some references that list -じられる and -ぜられる, but didn't see any ざれる endings.
New deinflections added in #1091; I will leave this issue open until I get around to updating the dictionaries with the new format (#834), which I'll try to do for the release at the end of the year.
New deinflections added in #1019;
Just a heads up, I think https://github.com/FooSoft/yomichan/issues/1019 is a typo @toasted-nutbread
Also, cool! I'll have to recompile jmdict and give this a try
Correct, it was. I'll also be looking into recompiling dictionaries at the end of the year, and hopefully replacing the existing ones with the new ones.
All of the dictionaries have been recompiled; I've also created a script in the current development branch of yomichan-import to automate this in the future.
Just compiled the latest JMdict build with the latest Yomichan Import build and can confirm this conjugation is working for me 👍
You should be able to just use the pre-built dictionaries now, they have all been updated :+1:
論ざれる still doesn't work, you can find more details here:
https://www.weblio.jp/content/%E8%AB%96%E3%81%96%E3%82%8C%E3%82%8B
It looks like it's for what Yomichan considers the potential or passive
rule? Correct me if I'm wrong on that. #1367
Yomichan seems to fail to recognize some conjugations of ずる verbs (code vz)
In this series of conjugations: 論じない 論ぜぬ 論ざれる 論じます 論ずる 論ずれば 論じろ 論ぜよ
Apart from 論ずる itself, 論ずる doesn't appear anywhere in the result list. I believe is has something to do with deinflect.json as I don't see any key for "ぜぬ" "ざれる" "ぜよ"
For reference: https://www.kokugobunpou.com/%E7%94%A8%E8%A8%80/%E5%8B%95%E8%A9%9E-7-%E3%82%AB%E8%A1%8C%E5%A4%89%E6%A0%BC%E6%B4%BB%E7%94%A8-%E3%82%B5%E8%A1%8C%E5%A4%89%E6%A0%BC%E6%B4%BB%E7%94%A8/#gsc.tab=0 https://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q10101971285