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Icon Request: fa-torah #13784

Closed CalumChilds closed 5 years ago

CalumChilds commented 6 years ago

I think this icon would be useful when it comes to referring to Jewish religious texts in the Torah and displaying The Torah in general. There are two suggestions I have about how to make this icon:

sensibleworld commented 6 years ago

https://fontawesome.com/icons/torah?style=solid

realAndrewEagle commented 6 years ago

Hi,

the new religion icons from version 5.3 are really nice. Although I have some notes.

  1. The Jewish bible is called Tanakh. It contains the Torah (five books of Moses), the Nevi'im and the Ketuvim. So I think the icon "torah" should be renamed to "tanakh".
  2. Both the Hewbrew and the Arabic language are right-to-left languages so the book front cover usually is on the "back". I think it would make those icons more authentic when the book would be mirrored to indicate the rtl text flow (see Quran sample photo and Tanakh sample photo.)

What do you think?

sensibleworld commented 5 years ago

@AndreasAdler Would something like this work as an update? We'd change the torah to a scroll, and add a new icon for tanakh with the book flipped

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realAndrewEagle commented 5 years ago

@sensibleworld Definitely an improvement over the old icon. 👍🏻

perymimon commented 5 years ago

as a Jew the start on the book above not reference me like a Jew think. perhaps it look more like as a Islamic star. or the mark used in the past to mark Jews. The Star of David looks completely different. google on it .

The first suggestion above seems much more correct and authentic, because the form of the icon is the form of the original Torah scroll of Judaism made of one piece. Indeed, it contains basically only the Torah or the Torah is the first thought when you see the Icon so fa-torah sound right and easy to remember.

sensibleworld commented 5 years ago

@AndreasAdler @perymimon Thanks for the feedback! We made a couple of updates in the latest release of Font Awesome.

The fa-torah icon now contains a more accurate Star of David and is in scroll form: https://fontawesome.com/icons/torah?style=solid

We've also added a new fa-tanakh icon with book in the correct orientation: https://fontawesome.com/icons/tanakh?style=solid

yringler commented 5 years ago

It's so nice to see some Jewish font icons! Great work! Regarding fa-torah : I see the thought process there (it was switched to a scroll, and it was made Jewish with a star of David), but as current it is not a Torah scroll. All Torah scrolls are opened horizontally, and, being as they contain a considerable amount of text, most of the scroll will always be wrapped around 2 wooden poles.

There are 4 primary forms (IMHO )for a Torah scroll.

  1. Ashkenazi open image
  2. Ashkenazi closed image
  3. Sefardi open
  4. Sefardi closed

If there will only be one icon, I would suggest using the Ashkenazi open torah scroll (as @Wingo5315 and @perymimon). It is universally and instantly recognizable.

To give a little more context, here's a link explaining how a Torah scroll is used.

sensibleworld commented 5 years ago

Thanks for the feedback, @yringler! We'll look into getting this updated.

AvremelM commented 5 years ago

@sensibleworld Thank you so much for reopening this (and for creating it)!

I just wanted to chime in to agree with @yringler and the others above. It's so great to see Jewish icons, and I hesitate to seem ungrateful (because I'm not), but the current one isn't recognizable as a Torah, which has a very well-known and established "look". This is evidenced by a quick image search for "torah" or "torah icon".

Personally my preference would be to have an Aleph (the first letter of the Hebrew alphabet) instead of a Star of David, for a variety of reasons (e.g., the aleph is actually used in the Torah scroll itself), but either way would be great.

Again, thank you!

sensibleworld commented 5 years ago

Thanks for all of the feedback on this icon folks. The update was just released: https://fontawesome.com/icons/torah?style=solid