Open rouson opened 7 years ago
@rouson
Damian, ranking the issues is a good idea, I :heart: it. Maybe we can firstly rank issues open-thread and subsequently we can also rank our proposal formatted by means of Zaak template.
Cheers
I like the idea of creating a milestone, and using that to curate the most serious proposals that we feel are worth bringing to the committee.
As far as choosing those, that is a pretty tricky process to formalize. I think in general, we should apply the :+1: reaction to register a vote for the proposal itself. Perhaps we could add other formalism, like, after a discussion someone moves to move the issue to the milestone list, and then that needs a second, and then people can vote :+1: for, :-1: against... etc...
@rouson where are the details of the next meeting?
See j3-fortran.org. The next J3 meeting will be October 16 - 20, 2017, Las Vegas, NV, USA. For anyone who is unaware, J3 is the American subgroup of the WG5 international committee, although some people from outside the US attend J3. Other countries also have subgroups that I think meet less often. J3 plays the primary role in issuing interpretation of the standards and in developing each version of the standard.
Thanks Damian! It would be great to get J3 on github, or to use some more modern approaches.... the 90s called and want's its website back π
Ohh... believe you me, I wish we could make that happen. This is why we need you to start attending J3. There was a major discussion at last year's WG5 meeting after a relatively new committee member suggested putting the standard itself on GitHub. What you're proposing is less controversial than that so there's at least a chance of it.
I'd love to attend, and would be happy to be an alternate... just need to get blessing from work, which they'd probably be OK with.
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Hopefully they will pay for your memberships so you don't have to be an alternate. The bigger question is time committment. The committee meets three times annually for a full week each time. I think a member cannot miss more than two consecutive meetings unless the member sends an alternate, but there are already many people lined up to be alternates when necessary, including yours truly, so you can actually miss more than one as long as someone there signs on to be your alternate.
As the list of issues grow here, we might consider ways to rank issues for whatever value that adds in informing the committee discussion. There could be labor-saving value in adopting discussion practices that facilitate leveraging GitHub's issue-sorting feature, which can sort issues according to
I think the reactions would be especially useful if they could be applied to the issue as a whole, but I imagine they won't ultimately be useful insofar as they relate only to individual comments.
It might also be useful to use the GitHub Milestones feature to prepare for events such as the committee meetings. The next meeting will be in October. Possibly issues that seem to be of great interest based on the above criteria could be added to upcoming Milestones as a way to encourage moving the discussion to a mature state in time for consideration at a committee meeting.
Any related feedback or thoughts are welcome. Or this can be deleted if it's considered non-issue. :)