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When did you find out about the sale? Why didnt you say something to community? #16

Closed inson1 closed 9 months ago

inson1 commented 10 months ago

@naveensingh

I can confirm it's true, but I don't have details on who, when, or where.

I think the sale was at least very shady, so please explain it to us, so we could trust you

naveensingh commented 10 months ago

When did you find out about the sale?

I think about a month ago. I didn't know nor did I want to know about the company that was going to buy simple mobile tools. I learned about the company name only after @Aga-C pinged me on the issue you created.

Why didnt you say something to community?

It wasn't my news to spread. Besides, until yesterday, I wasn't even sure if the sale was going to happen. Also, I generally don't go around publishing news about future events (that I'm not even sure will happen), it's not really my thing. You can check r/SimpleMobileTools, I'm a member here and there and I have never posted anything.

please explain it to us, so we could trust you

About the issue here, I know about the same as you do. As far as trust goes, there is nothing I can say other than these words: When I decide not to maintain it anymore, I'll leave it up to the community or pass it on to some active contributors.

inson1 commented 10 months ago

Lets keep this at least one day open :)

dasmaetthes commented 10 months ago

Maybe you could use it and post some background information about yourself here.

Who are you? Where are you from? What's your background in development? Why you started the fork?

inson1 commented 10 months ago

@dasmaetthes He was second main dev of SMT. I dont know more.

meenbeese commented 10 months ago

I want to sincerely thank you @naveensingh for being open about answering our questions, unlike @tibbi who (while I understand his funding issues) essentially betrayed the entire community overnight. I hope we can continue the legacy of SMT by passing the torch on to the next person who can do a better job holding it. Meanwhile, should we expand the general discussion README by introducing the project, our reasoning behind forking, and welcoming the SMT refugees?

naveensingh commented 10 months ago

Meanwhile, should we expand the general discussion README by introducing the project, our reasoning behind forking, and welcoming the SMT refugees?

Yeah, sure. The project has its own README in the .github repo. I'll do it later or if you already have something in mind, feel free to open a PR :)

naveensingh commented 10 months ago

@dasmaetthes

Maybe you could use it and post some background information about yourself here. Who are you? Where are you from? What's your background in development?

I'm afraid there's not much to know about me. I have been doing contract-based work for years. Mostly Android development, Python, and sometimes machine learning. At other times, I play with my things which includes building drones, planes from scratch, 3d printers, distro-hopping, etc.

Why you started the fork?

Simply to keep the project open source and alive and also because I like the idea of feature-complete open-source apps that are as reliable as their closed-source counterparts.

naveensingh commented 10 months ago

Lets keep this at least one day open :)

It's been a day :)

inson1 commented 10 months ago

@naveensingh Why did you reopen it?

naveensingh commented 10 months ago

To clarify comments (truncated for brevity) similar to the following:

Most (if not all) of you know that I was a member of the SimpleMobileTools organization for quite some time but I think many people are assuming I was there as a free open-source contributor and that is not true. I was there as a paid developer. I also had set “SimpleMobileTools” on my Github profile in the company field to indicate this (I’ll remove it now).

I think the reason developers were hired was because there just weren't enough community code contributions to keep the project going. When the project takes off, I'll be posting a contributors list wherever possible (in-app about page, release notes, project page, etc.) and recommend sponsoring our active contributors to encourage them and invite new contributors. Even a one-dollar donation shows them that their contributions had a positive effect.

I’m reopening this issue for some time but please avoid spending too much time here. Also, avoid creating additional issues or discussions related to this or the sale. Discussing the same SMT stuff over and over won’t help Fossify or anyone.

inson1 commented 10 months ago

@naveensingh I would close it and pinned it :)

Maybe even say something about that you were freelancer for SMT in Readme

inson1 commented 10 months ago

@nazar-pc https://github.com/FossifyOrg/General-Discussion/issues/16#issuecomment-1845468417