Can this be used on other types of 5d printers?

[mikedattolo]

IDK if this is more of a feature request or not but is there a way to implement other types of 5D printers, ones that don't use the bed rather than maybe one where the additional axes are connected to the extruder?

[FreddieHong19]

Yes of course, I know Open5x has been implemented on Voron, E3D toolchanger and Ender3. Latest iteration has developed by BrendonBuilds.

[mikedattolo]

Yes of course, I know what Open5x has been implemented on Voron, E3D toolchanger and Ender3. Latest iteration has developed by BrendonBuilds.

Thank you for your response :) very much appreciated, even though very cool that other people are using different machines to achieve this, I was thinking, is there a way to change the positioning of the axes so that rather than using the bed of the 3D printer to move for 5D, why not use the extruder to move? Here I have my 5D printer I am working on and a small drawing that might help explain what I mean. Because I have Rhino 3D and Grasshopper and your file, I just don't understand how to change the Prusa model for my model and the logic of the positioning of the axes, so I thought I would reach out.

[critter42]

Two of those platforms he mentioned (Voron and E3D tool changer) have stationary beds, so you might find those projects and see what they did

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Yes of course, I know what Open5x has been implemented on Voron, E3D toolchanger and Ender3. Latest iteration has developed by BrendonBuilds.

Thank you for your response :) very much appreciated, even though very cool that other people are using different machines to achieve this, I was thinking, is there a way to change the positioning of the axes so that rather than using the bed of the 3D printer to move for 5D, why not use the extruder to move? Here I have my 5D printer I am working on and a small drawing that might help explain what I mean. Because I have Rhino 3D and Grasshopper and your file, I just don't understand how to change the Prusa model for my model and the logic of the positioning of the axes, so I thought I would reach out. [image: IMG_0386] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/113625156/228844227-30c48937-acca-440b-a857-dc6fddcc4e27.jpeg [image: IMG_1834] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/113625156/228844268-f58507e4-b747-4e1e-944b-0e77f5c6ba94.PNG

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[mikedattolo]

Two of those platforms he mentioned (Voron and E3D tool changer) have stationary beds, so you might find those projects and see what they did … On Thu, Mar 30, 2023, 8:07 AM mikedattolo @.> wrote: Yes of course, I know what Open5x has been implemented on Voron, E3D toolchanger and Ender3. Latest iteration has developed by BrendonBuilds. Thank you for your response :) very much appreciated, even though very cool that other people are using different machines to achieve this, I was thinking, is there a way to change the positioning of the axes so that rather than using the bed of the 3D printer to move for 5D, why not use the extruder to move? Here I have my 5D printer I am working on and a small drawing that might help explain what I mean. Because I have Rhino 3D and Grasshopper and your file, I just don't understand how to change the Prusa model for my model and the logic of the positioning of the axes, so I thought I would reach out. [image: IMG_0386] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/113625156/228844227-30c48937-acca-440b-a857-dc6fddcc4e27.jpeg [image: IMG_1834] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/113625156/228844268-f58507e4-b747-4e1e-944b-0e77f5c6ba94.PNG — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#44 (comment)>, or unsubscribe https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAYCTNJ7KVIDCUZPDDSDI6LW6WAQFANCNFSM6AAAAAAWJPXTGI . You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread.Message ID: @.>

Thank you. I'll look into it now :)

[FreddieHong19]

You should definitely checkout the works of Rene! He is also working with head-articulation system. His website is really well documented.

https://xyzdims.com/2021/02/08/3d-printing-penta-axis-pax-5-axis-printing-option/

[mikedattolo]

https://xyzdims.com/2021/02/08/3d-printing-penta-axis-pax-5-axis-printing-option/

I have checked his out, however, there isn't enough info on how to go about the slicing software, he explains he uses something called Slicer4trn and slic3r and openscad yet looking into it there aren't any detailed instructions to go about using slicer4rtn, and I can't seem to find anything on the Voron and E3D 5D printers by brendenbuilds

[FreddieHong19]

E3D 3D models are included in this repository. The Voron 3D model is very recent, and it might be still under development by Brendon.

[mikedattolo]

E3D 3D models are included in this repository. The Voron 3D model is very recent, and it might be still under development by Brendon.

ok, but what if I wanted to load my own model by any chance? Is there a way to go about that easily?

[FreddieHong19]

It's hard to explain through text, but in the current version of the script. You will need to open the simulation node and load your own 3D model inside. I am doing some major rework on the script at the moment, which I am hoping to release next week. I will follow up with the detailed walk through of the script week after. (Sorry for being slow with the tutorials! I keep finding areas to improve)

[mikedattolo]

It's hard to explain through text, but in the current version of the script. You will need to open the simulation node and load your own 3D model inside. I am doing some major rework on the script at the moment, which I am hoping to release next week. I will follow up with the detailed walk through of the script week after. (Sorry for being slow with the tutorials! I keep finding areas to improve)

No worries thank you very much for the help, my last question is though if I do manage to load my model in is there a way to define the axis for extruder articulation?

[FreddieHong19]

Yes, you can define the axis of rotation, and the refence point of which the rotation happens. However, this will need to be some adjustment inside the kinematics node. Current setup accounts for inverse kinematics. If you are rotating the head that is forward kinematics (which in theory is easier the calculate)

[mikedattolo]

Yes, you can define the axis of rotation, and the refence point of which the rotation happens. However, this will need to be some adjustment inside the kinematics node. Current setup accounts for inverse kinematics. If you are rotating the head that is forward kinematics (which in theory is easier the calculate)

gotcha thank you, just because I am not that skilled in Grasshopper and I wouldn't know how to do that easily is there a way to upload a tutorial on it? I'm confident that I can figure out the model and maybe the points of rotation, however Im not confident when it comes to the rest of that. lol XD

[mikedattolo]

and when talking about the simulation node, is this what you are referring to?

[mikedattolo]

Hey so I was able to bring my model into the grass hopper file and set up everything yet I am having some issues with it that I can only describe as breaking, it seems that it doesn't like my model for some reason, I attached some pictures which I hope can explain something.

[walterbux]

Hello, I have adapted the project for the use on an Anet A8 printer. Here follows a video. https://drive.google.com/file/d/19SqbeTdAYfTyP9jftIdFQ90rBx3jP8Fw/view?usp=sharing I have tried to print the propeller with all the 3 blades but the slicer makes a path that does not take into account neither the nozzle dimension nor the extruder shape so the result is that 1 blade is ok but when printing the second blade the nozzle moves against the propeller shaft and detachs the printed model from the bed. I have not found a solution to configure or modify the slicer in order to avoid the above behaviour except editing by hand the produced Gcode. In any case the nozzle I have bought is the thinner that is commercially available. The solution proposed by Freddie is too much expensive: 18 euro for every nozzle change ...

[sotnikovmisa]

Hello, I am repeating the Open5x project and have completely downloaded and installed everything, but my Gcode is not generated, I am using Rhino7, I am working in the file 2022_03_22_open5x_supportless_surface_Lite.gh but it doesn’t work. The goal of my work is to assemble a 5-axis metal printer that prints with metals (wire). The project will be open.

[walterbux]

First of all you have to open the simulation block and where you see the reference to the external file c:\ you have to point to the location of your file Prusa_5axis_profile_v2 rhino model and save the module as modified. Next you have to set the Substrate, then the Supportless Brep and finally the Z axis edge of the Supportless brep (Set one brep, Set one Brep, Set one curve...). After set your parameters as Layer Height etcetera and then toggle from false to true the slicer switch. Wait as long as it becomes true and select the simulation block. You see then the sliced item and the simulation slider shows the movement of the nozzle. Below the simulation switch you find the Gcode. With the mouse rigth button select "copy data only" then you paste it on a blank text file. that's it.

[sotnikovmisa]

where is the modeling block located?

[walterbux]

In Rhino obviously. You have to load the model in Rhino and open grasshopper in a side window. In Grasshopper point the brep simbol with the right mouse button and set one brep... And select the substrate... after the conformal brep...

[sotnikovmisa]

open the carriage model or example?

[walterbux]

Example

[sotnikovmisa]

how to choose a substrap?

[walterbux]

The example is a turbine: you have to select the axis of the turbine as a substrate and the blade as conformal brep.

[sotnikovmisa]

VID_20231015_145932 Hello, I'm trying to repeat the actions that you said, but some actions are not clear to me, am I doing you right or not? If not, tell me how to fix it.

[walterbux]

Sorry but on trying to see the video it says "connection refused"...

[sotnikovmisa]

here is a photo of my grasshopper

[sotnikovmisa]

Is C# supposed to light up red?

[sotnikovmisa]

Now I'll try to show the video from the photos

[sotnikovmisa]

When I turn on Grasshopper, I get these windows (can I do something with them?)

[sotnikovmisa]

next I chose one brep

[sotnikovmisa]

Next I chose one substrate (the base of the part)

[sotnikovmisa]

and I don’t quite understand where the link to the external file C\ is located:

[sotnikovmisa]

and I still don’t understand where the edge of the Z axis of the unsupported gap is located

[sotnikovmisa]

and where else can you install one transition?

[sotnikovmisa]

How to install the substrate?

[walterbux]

The windows depend on the fact that you have not pointed the correct directory (where you have placed the prusa model.).. I have already explained how to :"First of all you have to open the simulation block and where you see the reference to the external file c:\ you have to point(right mouse button menu when pointing the block showing c:) to the location of your file Prusa_5axis_profile_v2 rhino model and save the module as modified".

[dimensionalcreations3d]

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The windows depend on the fact that you have not pointed the correct directory (where you have placed the prusa model.).. I have already explained how to :"First of all you have to open the simulation block and where you see the reference to the external file c:\ you have to point(right mouse button menu when pointing the block showing c:) to the location of your file Prusa_5axis_profile_v2 rhino model and save the module as modified".

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[walterbux]

The red block inside the Filament retraction doesn't matter: it is activated whe there is a retraction... To activate the slicer you have to toggle as true the switch on the left under Controllers and close to the green area. "edge of the Z axis of the unsupported gap is located" select one edge of one palette.

[walterbux]

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