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FrozenBlock / WilderWild

A Minecraft mod that overhauls the Wild Update 
https://modrinth.com/mod/wilder-wild
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Rebalance Ancient Horns #100

Closed MerpisMe closed 2 years ago

MerpisMe commented 2 years ago

They're too strong lol

imo rarity doesn't really work well as a balance, and while you could argue that tridents go against this, tridents are still really not even all that good.

i think honestly instead of making them deal a ton of damage, we should instead make them deal a lot of knockback and a fair amount of damage

in addition to that, we could add back the enchantments to increase knockback or damage, but make them mutually exclusive to one another

Xfrtrex commented 2 years ago

100!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MerpisMe commented 2 years ago

100!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wauep

Xfrtrex commented 2 years ago

also no they are useless with the cooldown

Xfrtrex commented 2 years ago

100!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wauep

this is issue 100

MerpisMe commented 2 years ago

i know

MerpisMe commented 2 years ago

also no they are useless with the cooldown

they're still way too powerful like yeah there's the cooldown but that doesn't mean that they're any less overpowered

AViewFromTheTop commented 2 years ago

I personally think they remove a huge source of annoyance in mid/late-game, the annoyance of being forced to fight off tons of mobs that you KNOW you will overcome anyway I'm sure there's a way to balance it better, but I feel like doing so would also take away from the fun (or just add back that annoyance) and add bloat in the process

AViewFromTheTop commented 2 years ago

they're literally half the reason i'm able to build on my server

Xfrtrex commented 2 years ago

they're literally half the reason i'm able to build on my server

wait server?

MerpisMe commented 2 years ago

I personally think they remove a huge source of annoyance in mid/late-game, the annoyance of being forced to fight off tons of mobs that you KNOW you will overcome anyway I'm sure there's a way to balance it better, but I feel like doing so would also take away from the fun (or just add back that annoyance) and add bloat in the process

my main concern is the fact that you can get it early game and then break all progression it's basically an easy way to defeat the wither and ender dragon in a very small amount of time

Xfrtrex commented 2 years ago

hah! make them do no damage to bosses like that!

Xfrtrex commented 2 years ago

they are resistant the ender dragon has thick scale armor and the wither, is just, like a wither

MerpisMe commented 2 years ago

a

idk i think it would still just make more sense if it did more knockback than damage since it's literally just a loud sound

Xfrtrex commented 2 years ago

nah

Xfrtrex commented 2 years ago

knockback is useless and annoying

MerpisMe commented 2 years ago

ok and

AViewFromTheTop commented 2 years ago

Based BluePheonix

Xfrtrex commented 2 years ago

Based BluePheonix

ITS XFRTREX I CANT FUCKIN CHANGE ITTT

MerpisMe commented 2 years ago

tell me why it's a good idea in the slightest to make it so that you can obtain the strongest weapon in the game within minutes of starting because i honestly cannot see how that makes any sense

Xfrtrex commented 2 years ago

shoot what was that, anyways i meant to say "do you mean the weakest weapon in the game?"

MerpisMe commented 2 years ago

shoot what was that, anyways i meant to say "do you mean the weakest weapon in the game?"

you cannot be serious bro it is the strongest thing in the game in terms of base dps and its cooldown is still only like 30 seconds

Xfrtrex commented 2 years ago

did you really just say ONLY 30 seconds

Xfrtrex commented 2 years ago

ONLY?!

MerpisMe commented 2 years ago

30 seconds is nothing for how fucking strong it is bro have you even tried it against the wither

Xfrtrex commented 2 years ago

also no it only does 2 crit hits of an unenchanted sword

Xfrtrex commented 2 years ago

30 seconds is nothing for how fucking strong it is bro have you even tried it against the wither

yes i have there is way better options to kill it, like a sword

Xfrtrex commented 2 years ago

smite 5

AViewFromTheTop commented 2 years ago

tell me why it's a good idea in the slightest to make it so that you can obtain the strongest weapon in the game within minutes of starting because i honestly cannot see how that makes any sense

The thing is extremely hard to find in Ancient Cities, sometimes not even being in there You’re telling me that the average player will find a city, go through every single chest, and leave completely unharmed within MINUTES of starting a new world The average player