Closed MicahMoo11 closed 2 months ago
this is off topic but memoriesofthedaize emailed someone from the team about other barbie game not working on one activity only but hooks. with cnc-ddraw
is it passable fix this game in the maze portion of the game. if you can't that is ok you are busy as is
https://archive.org/details/BarbieDetective2VacationMystery
we can make a sarprate issue of this.
Yeah I will have a look into it now.
Did you see my post about Reader Rabbit's Thinking Adventures? it works with DisplayFullScreen=1 in trabbit.ini
Here is a new update for TLCLauncher, but it only works in windowed mode... Maybe I could make it working fullscreen too, but not sure yet how to do it.
think you that fully fixed it, except windows 8 showing 5 errors than launchers the game.
as for reader Rabbit's Thinking Adventures, no we did not but if making that one change can be done Easler.
we have a debug log for barbie 2, but it is over 100 memory and cant upload. we are redoing it. that has to be a mistake.
it can be over 100mb, it's normal. You have to .zip it then it's a lot smaller and github will accept it.
How did you run barbie 2 with cnc-ddraw? the exe is on the cd, not on the disk
what i did was i put cnc-ddraw, inside of the disc other you have no debug log by normal means.
here is the de bug log
nice, thanks!
Where is the maze game, how can I start it?
nice, thanks!
Where is the maze game, how can I start it?
here are the windows 10 logs cnc-ddraw-1.zip
we are now testing on windows 10 for more reliable reports, we found out that once the game is installed just copy and paste all of 23466 to the hard drive C:\Program Files\Barbie(R)\Detective Barbie(R) 2 The Vacation Mystery(TM) and it works. mast be installed due to regedit.
you have to go outside,
once you arrived here
turn right with a fence, that has the pink flowers.
the easy way is to go down the stars by the elevators, on your left. you will see exit that leads to the picture. on your right is the pink flowers with the white farce.
I can reproduce it, but it does happen without cnc-ddraw too, so it seems to be a bug in the game, not in the renderer
in that case can you guess why it works under windows 95, 98 and Me. but starting in windows xp it breaks.
Nope, I don't know. I can only see in the logs that something disables the window and then the log stops
question should we try getting logs from windows me. vmware does not support it that will more so with linux. does your code support it. it was made after windows 2000.
No, it does not work with it. You also can't put ddraw.dll files into the game folder in older windows versions, I think windows 2000 was the first one where that worked
edit may 31 at 10:40 am
once more thinks for not blocking it like in the xp build. almost forget if you really don't want to support. we can respect this
old comment you are right we did test windows 95-98, it not working or possible on game folder, Windows ME on the other hand did try to attempt to work but it looks like your targeting windows xp,
unless cnc-ddraw_win2000_i486_mingw.zip that folder supports windows 2000,
so we trad another project that clams to support it that was here. https://github.com/ayuanx/pal-ddraw/releases/tag/v2023.08.04
it failed on windows 98 se but works with windows me, once we are done with this issue, we will github the developer and ask him whats up.
also, we did notice the maze part did close with his ddraw, but once we removed it, it was working fine?
are you sure it's not the rendering, or a nasty bug that tries to hook with the game with it unsafely.
as for vmware player; we used this driver
https://github.com/JHRobotics/vmdisp9x/releases/tag/v1.2024.0.46 and it give us DirectDraw support. and direct 3d 6 or below.
I had it running once in windows 98, it's not that difficult to fix these error messages. But it will still not work there properly without some bigger changes
think you for telling us about windows 98, we have been trying out all kinds of DirectDraw debug logs that clam to support, windows 9x but appears none exist, Barbie(R)\Detective Barbie(R) 2 The Vacation Mystery(TM)
sadly, without knowing the behaver from 9x they are no way to fix for systems after Windows xp. even if we do find other emulation or hooks it closes even on Window 9x, without it works for some reason. at this point we given up finding other alternatives, we will still camp windows me for testing.
Ah okay. I don't know any good tools for such old windows versions either.
I did some more updates, TLC launcher is now working in fullscreen and also did a lot of testing and did some other improvements. Maybe this here is the final build now for the learning company games:
We have played 10 games, we have seen improvements, We think you are using learning lounger as a base to detect the games. we see improvements of all reader ribbit 2002 in developer mode.
again, we or i not sure if this is by accident or you increased performance enough in normal mode, that the team felt no difference. good thing us we do plan to make them public, eventually one day.
the other 2 are Madeline we did test madeline math, it works with windows 10 but does not upskilled allthough it works with windows 7, also maximized does not work properly on windows 7. We had to use nt 4 compatibility, with your patch, we did notice it was more stable, overall.
we tested more games in basic developer mode, cluefinders, batman, star flyers & others after 2001. we are seeing no issues even with performance ware more or less fixed. although certain scripts may slow down.
the only issue we see is that, builds before 2000, may have issues, on maximized, or windowed mode, & windows after 8+ might see issues but other than that it was mostly working to our eyes this issue is resolved, once more thinks.
just testing clue finders' math 9-12. it won't maximized. but we are testing on windows 10. or the game is not supported.
Yes, upscaling/maximize does not work with all games. I make that working with a few more games later, maybe on next release of cnc-ddraw (will take some time...).
Windowed mode should work with all games. Can you tell me the game names where windowed mode doesn't work?
Also, I think I fixed the cyberchase movie playback in windowed:
Yes, upscaling/maximize does not work with all games. I make that working with a few more games later, maybe on next release of cnc-ddraw (will take some time...).
Windowed mode should work with all games. Can you tell me the game names where windowed mode doesn't work?
Also, I think I fixed the cyberchase movie playback in windowed:
cyberchese games fully work windows video, windows 2000-7 windows 8+ even on real hardware will not wotk. not even newer QuickTime. so worse compatibility.
madeleine math 1st and 2nd grade maximized only works with windows 2000-7. does not on Windows 8+. i except if those 2 games are fixed the others will also on 8+
cyberchese games fully work windows video, windows 2000-7 windows 8+ even on real hardware will not wotk. not even newer QuickTime. so worse compatibility.
For me cyberchase videos are working now in windows 10 with the latest cnc-ddraw. Try this one here:
Did you try windowed? Did you try fullscreen? did you try maximized? Anyhing working?
Can you hear the sound of the video?
madeleine math 1st and 2nd grade maximized only works with windows 2000-7. does not on Windows 8+. i except if those 2 games are fixed the others will also on 8+
I disabled upscaling for madeline math in all versions of windows in ddraw.ini because it isn't working correctly. Maybe you got a old ddraw.ini on windows 2000-7?
Thinks we confirmed about madeline
As for cyberchess games we are refactoring and reinstalling. This error is on our end.
We tested 49 games. I'll assume they work. Thinks from Wright micah.
Ok let me know if cyberchase is working now, if not, i'll check it again.
I just found a problem in almost all learning company games, here is a the fixed version: cnc-ddraw-6.5.0.5.zip
should we make developer logs, we now only have cnc-ddraw-6.5.0.5.zip for making our tests more easy now,
it barely works with a newer quicklime it is based on QuickTime 7.3 for windows 2000. it might be possible that this is a window 10 x86 exclusive bug, all modes work however the performance is really bad. sometimes the application will close.
will are using scsi hard drive. starting around vmware 16 they broke x86 windows 10 with, NVMe, even graphics starting at vmware 17. we will tomorrow test 64-bit windows 10 as vmware fully supports it unlike x86 windows 10.
we have tested cnc-ddraw-6.5.0.5.zip to our serprise putt putt saves the zoo 1995 ediiton was starting to work. we will be testing all humongous tommorow.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/18y1POBWl24BNewqbitfCkhPM2i3Vmipp?usp=drive_link this link are not originals. they are upgrades for 64-bit Version of windows.
should we make developer logs, we now only have cnc-ddraw-6.5.0.5.zip for making our tests more easy now,
Here is a developer build if you need it DebugLog.zip
it barely works with a newer quicklime it is based on QuickTime 7.3 for windows 2000. it might be possible that this is a window 10 x86 exclusive bug, all modes work however the performance is really bad. sometimes the application will close.
will are using scsi hard drive. starting around vmware 16 they broke x86 windows 10 with, NVMe, even graphics starting at vmware 17. we will tomorrow test 64-bit windows 10 as vmware fully supports it unlike x86 windows 10.
Yes it is slow for me too, but also without cnc-ddraw too. So could be a quicktime bug maybe.. not sure if I can fix that
we have tested cnc-ddraw-6.5.0.5.zip to our serprise putt putt saves the zoo 1995 ediiton was starting to work. we will be testing all humongous tommorow.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/18y1POBWl24BNewqbitfCkhPM2i3Vmipp?usp=drive_link this link are not originals. they are upgrades for 64-bit Version of windows.
I will check it out. Looks like a GDI game, they have such bugs where almost everything is black. Could be easy to fix maybe
Yes, putt putt zoo was easy to fix
here is the updated list for humongous, they all have black screens gdi most likely. but fully works.
Freddi fish 2 (2002 build only) which includes freddi fish Maze Madness = FreddiCHSH & Maze https://drive.google.com/file/d/1etb4zjlKhhrjrVd0FCYAdwrjCxFjmP4T/view?usp=drive_link
Freddi fish 3 (UK 2001 build only)= FreddiSCS https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BJY3dfkbUFfpRjN0cPIPuGB2T6rjKTJA/view?usp=drive_link
Freddi fish 4 = FREDDI4 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ecONtSHGhNjQAP-swe8UmehotzqvwOTb/view?usp=drive_link
Freddi fish 5 = freddicove https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MvvaVBm4roYyEwi0ccKptElLAamUDb2n/view?usp=drive_link
Freddi's FunShop= FreddisFunShop https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GG5DnM2uzkj7pqXWsK1PL8szcS1h95E6/view?usp=drive_link
Pajama Sam's One-Stop Fun Shop = SamsFunShop https://drive.google.com/file/d/17ZUgD8lxNT007oemqbfqe90UcMFyaC6J/view?usp=drive_link
pajama sam= (2002 build only) = PajamaNHD https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sBZt0Bj6QX2YEG5PP-mjahME-v4-IwGE/view?usp=drive_link
pajama sam 2= (UK 2001 Build only) PajamaTAL https://drive.google.com/file/d/1riuK08cJkAZYqkh6zSQRzomHgiovrHno/view?usp=drive_link
pajama sam 3= Pajama3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oIVgQ1JgK_nJLDGdKnn3OJNmkHrDfzlG/view?usp=drive_link
pajama sam games to play on any day https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gK0R5mz2Gc32P5lRNylco6EFWJtERz3G/view?usp=drive_link
Putt-Putt Joins the Circus = puttcircus https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U9fnVvSw139UPaw16z_CwHQoBKKnGHsn/view?usp=drive_link
Putt-Putt: Travels Through Time (2002 build only) which includes putt-putt Balloon-O-Rama PuttTTT & Balloon. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1O63RsTTgFMyD98n1rL7XWaR4NFwnkJSE/view?usp=drive_link
Putt-Putt and Pep's Dog On A Stick (2000 build only) = DOG https://drive.google.com/file/d/1h6x3zx_7wnkmMAXvbkuSq0DsuvgFqUeq/view?usp=drive_link
Putt-Putt's One-Stop Fun Shop = PuttsFunShop https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XPSWL5qOT7Xc2UZtiCuS2z7wK5tDMVq9/view?usp=drive_link
Putt-Putt Saves the Zoo (2000 build only) = PUTTZOO https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nf_wM5Z7I25n-zsQ1juUawRmGIUxluqY/view?usp=drive_link
Putt-Putt Enters The Race (UK 2001 build only)= UKPuttRace https://drive.google.com/file/d/17wDgmyHzn_9XiVPeIHzvtILQ0_z73dkD/view?usp=drive_link
SPY Fox: Operation Ozone= spyozon https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mO_r13yzBsbswOjj9laSXANV57PxZzvU/view?usp=drive_link
spyfox Hold the Mustard= mustard https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aRlC7rfzvTOfK7kUB30NnYkotgymDUEC/view?usp=drive_link
SPY Fox in Dry Cereal (USA 2008 build & UK 2001) SpyFox or SPYFOXDC https://drive.google.com/file/d/19pqRRd2hlPpuJngsxDIWANzxPghuO1un/view?usp=drive_link https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AHtsjW5VLsGoue6-QhLkKWfbAUHaHSWW/view?usp=drive_link
spy fox 2 (UK 2001 Build only) = SPYFOXSR https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WQKD9vqMljTRsfjPiRUr7g3kXMVh8Xwh/view?usp=drive_link
update on cybercheese with window 10 x64 with quicktime 7.7.9, which will no longer work with windows xp. unofficially 7.7.8 it fully plays on windowed mode only. not the case for windows 10 x86 sadly. windows 7 or vista x86 works fine.
we cant test x86 windows 10 on real hardware. to my eyes most people are using 64-bit windows. so not in issue.
here is the updated list for humongous, they all have black screens gdi most likely. but fully works.
Freddi fish 2 (2002 build only) which includes freddi fish Maze Madness = FreddiCHSH & Maze
Freddi fish 3 (UK 2001 build only)= FreddiSCS Freddi fish 4 = FREDDI4 Freddi fish 5 = freddicove Freddi's FunShop= FreddisFunShop
Pajama Sam's One-Stop Fun Shop = SamsFunShop pajama sam= (2002 build only) = PajamaNHD pajama sam 2= (UK 2001 Build only) PajamaTAL pajama sam 3= Pajama3
Putt-Putt Joins the Circus = puttcircus
Putt-Putt: Travels Through Time (2002 build only) which includes putt-putt Balloon-O-Rama PuttTTT & Balloon.
Putt-Putt and Pep's Dog On A Stick (2000 build only) = DOG Putt-Putt's One-Stop Fun Shop = PuttsFunShop Putt-Putt Saves the Zoo (2000 build only) = PUTTZOO Putt-Putt Enters The Race (UK 2001 build only)= UKPuttRace
SPY Fox: Operation Ozone= spyozon spyfox Hold the Mustard= mustard SPY Fox in Dry Cereal (USA 2008 build & UK 2001) SpyFox or SPYFOXDC spy fox 2 (UK 2001 Build only) = SPYFOXSR
Can you link me the .iso file for each of them?
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update on cybercheese with window 10 x64 with quicktime 7.7.9, which will no longer work with windows xp. unofficially 7.7.8 it fully plays on windowed mode only. not the case for windows 10 x86 sadly. windows 7 or vista x86 works fine.
we cant test x86 windows 10 on real hardware. to my eyes most people are using 64-bit windows. so not in issue.
I will do some more tests soon with cyberchase
i update the edited post for all humongous games
however, these games below are unknown at this time
pajama sam 4 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RmEqPp7wRia79jS8attTcWUSV2BsFCaV/view?usp=drive_link
putt putt 10 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rkFBOcdcver4aagf8P41m8YUs-uZOzqp/view?usp=drive_link
They are all working, only 2 got a little problem: You need to press Alt+Backspace instead of Alt+Enter to switch to windowed mode:
Pajama Sam(r): Life is Rough When You Lose Your Stuff(tm) Putt-Putt: Pep's Birthday Surprise
thinks so Mach I am surprised, you got done this Mach in a little amount of time.
once again thinks so Mach for this.
after more tested with humongous, window and maximalized fully works. but full screen is black for all humongous games, so 95% working, only tested on windows 7 at this time. now im going to bad.
the only 2 games i did not test is Pajama Sam(r): Life is Rough When You Lose Your Stuff(tm) Putt-Putt: Pep's Birthday Surprise
also, can you look at blue's clues I'm a little suspicious of them not working, https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cu9XXGjeqbOXT34PB5FB_GmVTGLjvmYv?usp=drive_link
as im noticing that games after 2000-way gdi only. but i could be wrong about this.
Oh sorry, I fogot to put the new ddraw.ini in the .zip. That's why it didn'T work
Here is updated zip with working fullscreen:
also, can you look at blue's clues I'm a little suspicious of them not working, https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cu9XXGjeqbOXT34PB5FB_GmVTGLjvmYv?usp=drive_link
as im noticing that games after 2000-way gdi only. but i could be wrong about this.
yeah I will check them
all work except 3 games although they work thru cnc-ddraw config.exe option for borderless. full screen bricks. only tested on windows 7.
sSPY Fox - Dry Cereal USA 2008 Build https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AHtsjW5VLsGoue6-QhLkKWfbAUHaHSWW/view?usp=drive_link
putt-putt travels thru time 2002 build https://drive.google.com/file/d/1O63RsTTgFMyD98n1rL7XWaR4NFwnkJSE/view?usp=drive_link
Pajama Sam: No Need to Hide When It's Dark Outside 2002 build https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sBZt0Bj6QX2YEG5PP-mjahME-v4-IwGE/view?usp=drive_link
Not using ddraw.dll, can't be hooked
working
Not using ddraw.dll by default, but there is code in the exe to load ddraw.dll - need to find out how to activate it
Not using ddraw.dll by default, but there is code in the exe to load ddraw.dll - need to find out how to activate it
Not using ddraw.dll, can't be hooked
working
working
Not using ddraw.dll, can't be hooked
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New build with the 3 games supported cnc-ddraw-6.5.0.8.zip
all work except 3 games although they work thru cnc-ddraw config.exe option for borderless. full screen bricks. only tested on windows 7.
sSPY Fox - Dry Cereal USA 2008 Build https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AHtsjW5VLsGoue6-QhLkKWfbAUHaHSWW/view?usp=drive_link
putt-putt travels thru time 2002 build https://drive.google.com/file/d/1O63RsTTgFMyD98n1rL7XWaR4NFwnkJSE/view?usp=drive_link
Pajama Sam: No Need to Hide When It's Dark Outside 2002 build https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sBZt0Bj6QX2YEG5PP-mjahME-v4-IwGE/view?usp=drive_link
Just tested, they are all working for me. Are you sure you are using the new ddraw.ini?
if it still doesn'T work, send me a the debug .log file and I check
we just tested all are working not sure what happen yesterday. once more thinks.
can you Cheak on Freddi fish 1 2008 build, it does not hook unless it is based on the 1998 build. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EP_6DjxarX4HrYmFCskqbIHZSaxzF3F0/view?usp=drive_link
once more thinks.
Freddi fish 1 2008 build is the same as Blue's Art Time_v11.iso and Blue's Reading T_v11.iso, they all don't use ddraw.dll by default but they have code to load ddraw.dll
Ah, I just found out how it works. But I can'T do it from ddraw.dll because it isn't loaded into the process. It only works with a game patch
Here is a patched freddi1.exe
and new cnc-ddraw with freddi1 support: cnc-ddraw-6.5.0.9.zip
and here for the other two blues games:
Blue's Art Time_v11.iso ArtTime.zip
Blue's Reading T_v11.iso Blue's Reading Time.zip
is it a right to cheek these games also those are 1998 and 1999 builds also, thinks for the patch for the 2 blues games they wot thinks again.
pajama sam 2 1998 (usa build) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wUAUX5cvDMMr-hZYdZ9-iti7PvhwNsNf/view?usp=drive_link
pajama sam sock works https://drive.google.com/file/d/1D-sZhvtZ_q9kHiPvcqOtY0h4eqWzNtG0/view?usp=drive_link
Pajama Sam's Lost & Found https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KHIB1S89J5Ga0KT-y-H8fQ-PD1SN3UE_/view?usp=drive_link
putt-putt enters the race 1998 (usa build) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GeQS16XtgMQQBtby1zecymsgrr9d2-ZH/view?usp=drive_link
spy fox cheese chase (1999 build) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dbHd9UajvNLzRg-RPaLv6_SjYOHTAjXK/view?usp=drive_link
feeddifish water 1999 build https://drive.google.com/file/d/10dqags8zHtNDL5v0Rl99ZRMpTT-WdtZZ/view?usp=drive_link
all of big thinkers folder https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Xk0iZ-ik3v8mkVeWl0xIz6XZ2xpOSKkM?usp=drive_link
im now learning ollydbg very interesting program. but ill figure this out.
we also have those 1995 and 1996 builds. to note they were originally ms-dos but we ported them to x86. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1JsE94498mmz9FdfLHvKNDIBX3XdjBfpn?usp=drive_link
in other words if people got them under eBay they will not work under 64-bit windows.
I checked all, they're all not using ddraw.dll therefore can't be hooked.
freddi water is the only one that works:
once more think you for going out of your way, that looks like all the games except the learning company.
i do greatly appreciated, for adding support. for a lot of these games. we never attended to say anything about barbie 2 which looks unresolvable at this time. without proper debug scripts for widows 98-ME. as for humongous, It was just a byproduct by discovering things. I am retiring of finding new games. although if you have any questions, just post here. our only feedback is that SPY Fox in Dry Cereal and some others will not work with us builds.
sorry for the inconveniences from debug testing so many games from Wright Micah.
Maybe the US builds got a different .exe name? ddaw.ini is looking for SPYFOXDC.EXE and SpyFox.exe - It's easy to add new sections though, you just have to modify the .ini
sorry i mean some games like spy fox 2 and pajama sam 2 have usa builds but they are not computable as only the uk verions work. as no ddraw.dll. and others i dont remember but ill make a last if needed.
people at the USA, might get confused, try to find out nope, does not work. and later report to github. but in reality, you can't fix it Eather,
Update Jun 14th, 2024, this post was originally made to fix Reader rabbit personalized reading ages 4-6. Version 3.0 original build even, clue finder's original 4th-6th grade editions. although works with pal-ddraw, more info here https://github.com/ayuanx/pal-ddraw/issues/3
As of 6.8, it now fully works with 98% from the learning Company games. except 14 games.
reader rabbit toddler with RRTW32.exe (Due Note This Does Not Work with The XP Build of cnc-ddraw)
DDrawcompat 0.5.3 fully works with Scooby-doo case file#1 the glowing bug man & carmen Sandiego great chase through time only on 8+. Windows Vista & 7, Due to WDDM and GDI issues mostly on Virtualization hypervisor even on Real hardware at times. for windows vista & 7 just use (just use Dxwnd) as for Cs_gctt no solution at this time Sorry.
Not using Fullscreen exclusive (these 12 games Link Below) are not compatible sense windows 2000 exception is Dr Seuss toddler and Carmen Sandiego Think Challenge even than fails under windows 8+ and don't advised Vista or 7 Due to extreme stabilitys & compatibility issues. At this time, they are no wrappers or emulators that has support except maybe DxWnd. Even than fails 80% of the time with 35 people testing with varies configurations, even imposable on 8+
Just use Windows ME for all Not using Fullscreen exclusive unless something changes. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/14kEtjz_putAfsz0x7lrxDI7r8hvpsi86?usp=drive_link
those are Learning-Creative (Vista-11-Bonus) Ver. 4 (Debug) https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1nax1XTAhQvYlurWbSma0kZ8aqFfdz8as?usp=sharing