Can we have a working VST example?

[phoenick]

I think we are really missing the opportunity for a large group of people from the music industry to start working and experimenting with TrueAudio Next. I think this could give AMD the edge on that domain as while almost everything gets accelerated these days, real time audio is NOT, and this is really a shame because it could open up the market.

Come on guyz, we really need this! 😊

[digitalexperimentsmusic]

Totally agree with that. And i thinked of this so deep. AMD Should look to 2 companies which already are having a totally innovative and opensourced minded focus AND they are partners eachoder already.

DAW Oriented Software guys: Presonus: https://www.presonus.com/en-US/studio-one-pro.html Bitwig Studio: https://www.bitwig.com/ Both of his daw are already fully integrated with hardware graphic acceleration, being Bitwig the most recent one to achieve it. IDK how Presonus Studio One did it, but Bitwig used vulkan libraries.

Also they are both supporting linux already: Presonus being in his beta version of his so recent las release: https://support.presonus.com/hc/en-us/articles/29946266352525-Studio-One-Pro-7-Linux-Getting-Started Bitwig Studio supporting linux from the beggining: https://www.bitwig.com/download/

Here are my deep points here: The new OpenSourced Clever Audio Plugin Standard made with Bitwig Studio in partnership with Hu-He: https://www.bitwig.com/stories/clap-the-new-audio-plug-in-standard-201/ Focusing on improve the actual stuff in terms of performance, capabilities and also bringing the thinks easy for manufacturers to bring full multiplatform support with ease, also having already his way to port his VST,AU,AAX and whatever with ease to CLAP. Studio One from Presonus and Bitwig Studio where of course the first daw's on supporting this open sourcered format. Also Vital Audio fastly deployed his plugins CLAP and some Linux based DAW's such as Reaper implemented his own support for thoose plugins.

Main page here: https://cleveraudio.org

The new .dawproject file format, another OpenSourcered project which aims into create an standard file format to easily migrate projects from one daw to another made by Bitwig Studio and in partership with Presonus. This literally is the first dream every artist wanted since DAW's were born. https://github.com/bitwig/dawproject

And of course, Bitwig Studio and Studio One were the firsts to implement it in his daws, also Reaper did it and probably other Linux based DAW's did it already too.

What are my thoughts here about this: They can and want to lead Music Production to a next and open sourced level. They support all platforms. This can lead to musicians to work with his computers in incredibly high sample rates, bit deph... so Higher audio Quality and the hability and capacity to do even greater stuff. The hability to them to collaborate, no matter which platform/software they're using. Can open a road to make Linux the Standard and best OS to choose for musicians. Which today they're totally caped out by the greatest plugin manufacturers to have only access to a real-time ready OS like linux via MacOS and under Apple lines and hardware limitations, also the only far alternative is Windows being an OS which is not ready in his basis for music production and all stuff related to work well with audio in Windows is in the hands of Steinberg which is propietary owner of ASIO low latency drivers and VST standard.

Ways i see someone could make market cap with this:

• Linux and any linux desktop distribution project. (Arch Linux already colaborated with valve and maked the linux gaming dream already a reality), also linux desktop and gaming nowadays only runs out of the box on amd hardware based. We all know how good are nvidia drivers on linux ;) so there can be a Linux Desktop Boom, of course "Linux is so hard" but Manjaro Linux team already did true the dream of a Linux Desktop which is an easy transition for anyone and it's based on the actual BEST DESKTOP ENVIRONMENT which exists nowadays that is KDE since his version 5,having microsoft and apple copying his incredible features and selling it as innovation in his desktops, same as it happens with iPhones and androids.
• Of course, enterprise linux companies will want to take profit because they're about of making money, so some of them could purpose a partnership if it is already not existent with AMD (I don't know too much) but atleast the two relevant ones that i know (RHEL and SLES) has their own desktop verions for enterprise use and they sure will want to get market cap.
• AMD of course, can get his piece of cake selling "AMD Powered Digital Audio Workstation Hardware Ready" (And they already got the highest raw performance in terms of graphics and cpu's in order to not allow competitors to try to drain his plan. Also i spoked about linux desktop too, which Linux Foundation could have interest into join."
• Presonus of course will get sells from this
• Bitwig Studio too of course
• But in general i think all audiovisuals related industry would want to have his hardware being capable of so much more so they should be interested in evolving his music, cinema or wathever industry which is capped nowadays to hardware capabilities like in the past it was capped by analog hardware until enoughly good computers and digital audio started to work better bringing it more capabilities and making the existing boundaries much broader.
• And i think... any other who wants to go into the wheel or being forced to go in it will still win in some way. (Which DAW manufacturer will not want to make his DAW process audio via GPU and make his performance incredible better?)
• Competitors sure will loose market cap OFC, but... it surely will involve the linux desktop being popular for real to achieve it because no music producer in this world will think never that linux audio is a viable stuff for profesional work, they will directly go to MacOS(and we know that there is no amd hardware neither intel or nvidia in MacOS systems today), also the big plugin manufacturers has 0 interest on supporting linux because is just not worth the money and the entire linux audio comunity is based on just music enthusiasts or really good sound engineers which are not probably deserving money.
  • One thing i care is being apple and microsoft angry and menaced about this and how it will be handled.

So i think, tons of things can get better, customers can be happier, and there is a bunch of legacy which could be posible to get rid of, at least thoose big ones handling the thinks as always forever at gigantic prices will never be good for no one, and this in Music Production Industry is a heavy problem which everyone doesn't even take care because in the majority they're "Marketing fanatism" customers of what they are withouth enough technology understanding in general.

In my personal issue, i'll say that the only think which retains me on windows is Music Production, and also any graphic artists or profesional which is Adobe Dependant is also closed in the same jail, not to say that IN GENERAL artists and art related industry companies are already in or will eventually will """""Go to macs because it is better""""".

Wine still exist, even being horrible at his base... because it was always horrible, valve did something great forking it to proton and getting rid of involving the entire videogame industry to support linux. I'm using this as a case of succeed because something like what i am thinking has a similar road.

That is my deep thnking, hope AMD reads and the dream comes true, because i don't have the money to do this.

I know that is too much or heavy, but i also think that getting market cap just from Music industry will not be a big deal and also it will be so expensive to achieve, also having so much privative big ones in the way... So that's why i thought about this one.

Why to not get people into using linux in a good level at a daily basis? The future will come and probably will be full of programmers, and programmers best choice of OS is always linux, and his apps nowadays are all deployed on linux servers, theorizing of course that Linux could become a must have knowledge for future generations in order to make this wider plan more reasons to think that could be worth the money it will cost, and as i said... There is so many BIG THREADS to make the market cap enought for AMD just by going to audio, Apple is a big thread, Steinberg will be not agree getting his audio on windows monopoly taken out, and also microsoft being another privative one will put his rules in order to get benefit not caring a shit about no one, and i guess that linux community is so far open for acomplishing great audio stuff but they're just not supported by plug-in manufacturers which is essential, and they will not work for getting things better on privative software stuff.

Just to resume... I think getting the cool thinks we want in music industry is a really heavy, expensive and complex problem to solve and needs so much partnership and money interest in common to succed because it also implies into taking the cake out of his big owners, and even sounding that simple there are millions involved to get lost and millions to get winned. But the most important, there should be enough demand to even think to execute stuff like this and the vast majority of Artists are so happy eating from a fantastic and gigatonic wall of marketing fume to care about getting the thinks better, because they are already so fantastic to even be posible to imaginate what the hm... could be better if everything is already perfect right now and the limitations are widelly accepted as unbreakable.