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After JAMF install, Bluetooth was activated #38

Open wslack opened 6 years ago

wslack commented 6 years ago

I'm 95% sure I had bluetooth off on my machine before JAMF. After the install, I saw the activated Bluetooth icon in my menu bar.

Edit: this issue has occurred and reoccurred on these dates:

  1. Sept 8, 2017
  2. Sept 12
  3. Sept 27
  4. Sept 29
  5. Oct 31
  6. Nov 17
  7. Nov 22
  8. Dec 4
  9. Jan 4, 2018
  10. Jan 29
  11. Feb 7
  12. Feb 9
  13. Feb 20
  14. Mar 5
  15. Mar 22 (when turned on at my desk)
  16. April 26 (when turned on while moving through the building)
  17. July 23 (after a week away on vacation, at my desk in GSA, not at startup but upon waking from sleep)
  18. July 25 (computer was shut down as normal and left in GSA)
  19. August 13 (computer was shut down as normal and left in GSA over the weekend)
wslack commented 6 years ago

Bluetooth is on again, turning it off again. cc @konklone

wslack commented 6 years ago

Bluetooth is now back in my menu bar (removed it both times before) but still off.

Vanbella commented 6 years ago

Hello. Enforcing Bluetooth in menubar is one of the security items were managing via JAMF.

wslack commented 6 years ago

@Vanbella are you supposed to be activating bluetooth as well? I would think we'd want it off by default.

Vanbella commented 6 years ago

The policy does not enable Bluetooth, it just enforces that its in the Menubar to alert the user that Bluetooth is enabled.

wslack commented 6 years ago

Ok - I observed, at least once, bluetooth being activated, 13 days ago. Will keep watching.

wslack commented 6 years ago

@Vanbella bluetooth is on again; I just took this screenshot:

screen shot 2017-09-27 at 10 22 21 am
wslack commented 6 years ago

It was in the menu bar but off yesterday; now its in the bar and on. I just turned it off again.

wslack commented 6 years ago

Bluetooth is on again. screen shot 2017-09-29 at 11 13 51 am

Turned it off, again: screen shot 2017-09-29 at 11 14 03 am

Vanbella commented 6 years ago

Bluetooth may be auto-enabling if you have paired devices, or if you have Bluetooth advanced settings checked.

On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 11:14 AM, Will Slack notifications@github.com wrote:

Bluetooth is on again. [image: screen shot 2017-09-29 at 11 13 51 am] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/10016577/31022621-53f63248-a507-11e7-805d-3c5957e36fee.png

Turned it off, again: [image: screen shot 2017-09-29 at 11 14 03 am] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/10016577/31022622-54028b88-a507-11e7-89e9-171be3ec6612.png

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wslack commented 6 years ago

I have no devices but I do have the advanced settings checked - had never opened that screen. Will uncheck them.

screen shot 2017-09-29 at 3 55 41 pm screen shot 2017-09-29 at 3 55 21 pm

wslack commented 6 years ago

Confirming I unchecked the advanced settings.

wslack commented 6 years ago

@Vanbella Bluetooth is on again. The advanced settings are still unchecked. Turning it off again.

wslack commented 6 years ago

There were/are no paired devices.

wslack commented 6 years ago

Bluetooth is on again. There are no paired devices and the advanced settings are unchecked. Turning off again.

wslack commented 6 years ago

Bluetooth is on again.

screen shot 2017-11-22 at 12 54 41 pm

Settings Screen:

screen shot 2017-11-22 at 12 54 53 pm

No advanced settings on:

screen shot 2017-11-22 at 12 55 01 pm

Turned it off again:

screen shot 2017-11-22 at 12 55 12 pm
konklone commented 6 years ago

@Vanbella Can you or someone on your team suggest next steps for @wslack to take?

wslack commented 6 years ago

Bluetooth is on again! Preferences are unchanged.

Also, noting here that @Vanbella said this 7 days ago:

The Jamf logs show 11/21 the Bluetooth icon was added to the menubar on your Mac. The same policy ran on my 2 test macs as well. Bluetooth was not enabled on the 2 test macs. The Jamf policy is not enabling Bluetooth. So im looking into what would cause your Bluetooth issue and how to test it, resolve it.

It seems like its turning on when I come into the office. (edited to add direct link to Slack thread)

wslack commented 6 years ago

Confirming I turned Bluetooth off once more.

Vanbella commented 6 years ago

Hi Will

Send me the serial number of your mac to ensure i'm looking a the right machine.

Ive asked this before, but just to confirm you don't have any Bluetooth items paired to this mac. Thanks

-Andy

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Confirming I turned Bluetooth off once more.

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wslack commented 6 years ago

G0048227125 is the barcode, C02N8012G3QK is the serial number.

And no - there have been no bluetooth items paired to this machine in the past year.

Vanbella commented 6 years ago

OK Thats the Mac im looking at.

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G0048227125 is the baracode, C02N8012G3QK is the serial number.

And no - there have been no bluetooth items paired to this machine in the past year.

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randyhart commented 6 years ago

This same thing happened to me, just today. It's the first time that's happened. I turned it off because I don't have any need for bluetooth on my laptop and I've heard anecdotally having bluetooth might be a security risk.

Vanbella commented 6 years ago

Hi Randy

We dont have a policy which enables Bluetooth. The Bluetooth policy adds the Bluetooth icon to the menu bar to alert you if Bluetooth is active, but does not activate Bluetooth.

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This same thing happened to me, just today. It's the first time that's happened. I turned it off because I don't have any need for bluetooth on my laptop and I've heard anecdotally having bluetooth might be a security risk.

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konklone commented 6 years ago

@Vanbella We're hoping you can dig in a bit deeper -- it's clear GSA IT isn't intentionally activating Bluetooth on our machines, but this is a recurring issue that looks highly correlated with GSA IT management of Macs.

It sounds like you looked at @wslack's computer? Did you see anything in the logs or other places? If not, what should we do to figure out what's going on? It's not enough to note that there's no Bluetooth policy -- our collective responsibility is to figure out what's going on on our laptops when there's a surprise.

Vanbella commented 6 years ago

Sure, Randy please log a ticket with GSA service desk about the issue...

Thanks!

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@Vanbella https://github.com/vanbella We're hoping you can dig in a bit deeper -- it's clear GSA IT isn't intentionally activating Bluetooth on our machines, but this is a recurring issue that looks highly correlated with GSA IT management of Macs.

It sounds like you looked at @wslack https://github.com/wslack's computer? Did you see anything in the logs or other places? If not, what should we do to figure out what's going on? It's not enough to note that there's no Bluetooth policy -- our collective responsibility is to figure out what's going on on our laptops when there's a surprise.

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randyhart commented 6 years ago
  1. No idea how to do that, and this doesn't merit the time it would take to find out.

  2. I'm going to hold off on filing the GSA service desk ticket because it seems that now my WiFi is getting JAMF'ed about once a day. I was lucky til this point but ever since the bluetooth thing, I'm now getting all kinds of buggy behavior. If that keeps happening I'll use my service desk time to unJAMF my WiFi.

    Thanks.

Vanbella commented 6 years ago

You can log a ticket by emailing itservicedesk@gsa.gov and listing is the subject the issue, and that you're a mac user..."Bluetooth activating automatically on Mac". Also list any supporting details in the body of the email. Would you like me to log a ticket for you?

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1.

No idea how to do that, and this doesn't merit the time it would take to find out. 2.

I'm going to hold off on filing the GSA service desk ticket because it seems that now my WiFi is getting JAMF'ed about once a day. I was lucky til this point but ever since the bluetooth thing, I'm now getting all kinds of buggy behavior. If that keeps happening I'll use my service desk time to unJAMF my WiFi.

Thanks.

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randyhart commented 6 years ago

I'm just going to roll with it. Mine hasn't done it since the first time, so it's not as bad as what @wslack is dealing with. Appreciate the additional information and the offer to assist. Thank you.

wslack commented 6 years ago

Should I file an IT Service Desk ticket?

Vanbella commented 6 years ago

Yes if Bluetooth is still enabling automatically I would log a ticket.

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Should I file an IT Service Desk ticket?

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wslack commented 6 years ago

kk I will do that next time it happens.

konklone commented 6 years ago

@wslack Could you do it anyway before waiting for it to reoccur, just referencing this issue?

wslack commented 6 years ago

Ticket suggested I do this:

Go to System Preference—General Uncheck “Allow Handoff between this Mac and your iCloud devices” Restart your Mac

I've done these (not the restart, will do that later today) and will report back if/when bluetooth is active again.

wslack commented 6 years ago

(also, I will plan to close this issue in three months if the issue does not recur)

wslack commented 6 years ago

Bluetooth was on again at startup this morning. I didn't do anything to the computer between yesterday when I turned it off at GSA and this AM, when I turned it on at GSA. screen shot 2018-01-04 at 11 13 53 am

wslack commented 6 years ago

Confirming that the handoff screen was set as requested: screen shot 2018-01-04 at 11 15 08 am

Confirming no bluetooth devices are paired: screen shot 2018-01-04 at 11 16 02 am

Confirming Bluetooth advanced settings: screen shot 2018-01-04 at 11 16 14 am

wslack commented 6 years ago

Turned it back off: screen shot 2018-01-04 at 11 17 21 am

wslack commented 6 years ago

screen shot 2018-01-29 at 10 26 08 am

Happened again!

Turned it off again:

screen shot 2018-01-29 at 10 26 55 am

wslack commented 6 years ago

Contacting the service desk

Vanbella commented 6 years ago

Hi will

These are the policies that have run on your mac in the past few days. None of them enable Bluetooth.

[image: Inline image 1]

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wslack commented 6 years ago

@Vanbella that didn't attach!

wslack commented 6 years ago

New ticket: INC2217456

wslack commented 6 years ago

Next step: I tried deleting the files here and will restart my computer, then we'll see if it recurs.

screen shot 2018-01-29 at 1 00 48 pm

(edit: only the top two files)

wslack commented 6 years ago

Happened again.....will circle back later.

wslack commented 6 years ago

I turned it back off and e-mailed a GSA IT contact. I don't want to reimage the computer to fix this, so I think it will just stand in status quo.

wslack commented 6 years ago

I will also try a PRAM restart.

Vanbella commented 6 years ago

Hi Will

Did we ever put Bluetooth in debug mode on your Mac and get a very verbose Bluetooth log output?

-Andy

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I will also try a PRAM restart.

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wslack commented 6 years ago

Did the PRAM restart and no, we have never put bluetooth in debug mode.

Vanbella commented 6 years ago

OK let me find the directions for that and ill work with you on this.

-Andy

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Did the PRAM restart and no, we have never put bluetooth in debug mode.

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