codewarrior0
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6 years ago Chlorine's atomic mass is 36, which determines the UUM amount and duration of the replicator recipe. When supplied with UUA, a mass fabricator of any tier takes 25,720 EU to produce one UUM. An IV-tier fabricator consumes exactly 8192 EU/t; each tier below consumes half the EU as the one above (all tiers can input up to ten amps), and each tier above consumes only twice the EU as the one below.
The replicator takes 1024 ticks per atomic mass, consumes a full amp of its voltage tier, and uses standard overclocking, dividing the recipe time by two for each tier above LV.
The amplifabricator takes 5,760 EU over 180 ticks to produce one UUA. It also consumes a full amp and uses standard overclocking.
For each cell of chlorine, you need:
- 207,360 EU in the LV amplifabricator
- 925,920 EU in the mass fabricator
- 1,179,648 EU in the LV replicator
- ~30.1 LV-replicator-minutes
- ~5.4 LV-amplifabricator-minutes
- Plus whatever is needed to generate scrap
Total EU per cell is 2,312,928. Since the topic mentions 32 processing arrays each loaded with a stack of EV machines, it's relevant that one such processing array may consume 131,072 EU/t and would produce ~1.13 cells of chlorine per second if it could efficiently dedicate all of that EU to fabrication and replication.
The barrier to replication as a solution is that Replicator and Amplifabricator machines do not have free overclocking (which Mass Fabricators do have). To replicate at the above rate with maximum power efficiency, you would need around two thousand LV replicators and about six stacks of LV amplifabricators.
If the Replicator did have free overclocking, that throughput could be managed with a stack of EV replicators in an array, or a single ZPM replicator.
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Dream-Master
Which modpack version are you using?
2.0.3 #
What do you suggest instead/what changes do you propose?
With no more pams salt, and chlorine coming from ghast tiers, end game is going to have some issues. I personally use close to 16B of chlorine per second, but getting 16 ghast tiers a second has its problems. Large scale mobfarms kind of mess up with the teleporting and web placing mobs.
My idea is a fusion recipe for chlorine would be Oxygen with Hydrogen. It sorta works out chemically. Both are pretty easy to get, but it would still make chlorine harder to get than it is right now. Maybe have it take some mk1 eu/t value, and maybe at 16000L hydrogen and Oxygen to make 32000L Chlorine and take 8 seconds. It would be pretty close to the cost of electrolyzing salt right now, but would need a fusion reactor, and a decent amount of power. Not to mention the cost of 16B of oxygen and hydrogen. It's still more work that what we have now, but it's better suited for LuV+ than ghast tears are.
Maybe something like 8192eu/t for the recipe, and some starting EU that will put it in the MK1 category
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pretty sure @Cinobi has an issue with it too, and Pie might, couldnt really tell his opinion from earlier.
I use chlorine for silicone rubber, which I use for wetware circuits, and sometimes cables. I also use it for epoxy which I use for circuits as well as carbon mesh. I use it for titaniumtetrachloride, which I use for PTFE, polyethylene and glue, which I use for circuits, machines, and duct tape. I use it for HCl which I use for iron3chloride which I use for circuits. I use it for HCl which I use for one of the oil things, I think epoxy but it could be silicone. I don't craft chlorine as I need it, I have it constantly running to fill buffers that then get used in AE crafting, such as epoxy boards, carbon mesh, iron3chloride, and such. That way, I don't need to wait for thousands of epoxy to be crafted so I can make one of the 32 stacks of EV machines I need to fill a PA with.
I used to use an EV PA of LV machines to make chlorine, but it was always holding everything else up, so I tried an IV one, then had to change to an LuV one. It still struggles to make chlorine, but it can sometimes almost keep up, and more often than not, makes the slowest aspect, my oil production/refining into propene.