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[Suggestion] Introduction of Steves Factory Manager quest(s) to help with Assembly Line automation #3282

Closed DualBallers closed 5 years ago

DualBallers commented 6 years ago

I think everyone that has finally built a full Assembly Line (AL) has had the same realization that I've had - it is really difficult to automate the AL. When you have more than a handful of recipies where a certain amount of materials need to go to a specific set of input buses, then even EIO conduits will not easily help you.

I looked through discord and found that the user 'Repo' made a incredibly compact automated crafting system using Steve's Factory Manager(edit OC). image

I have never played with SFM, the barrier of entry to making a functioning automated AL feels a bit daunting, when "coding" is involved.

I think it would be nice to have SFM quest(s) that guides you to automate e.g. the LuV Motor. From there on you would need to figure out how to expand the SFM system yourself.

SFM is not introduces elsewhere in the quest book and this seems like a perfect fit for it?

Dream-Master commented 6 years ago

SFM ?

Anarack commented 6 years ago

steves factory manager

boubou19 commented 6 years ago

You can automate an ass. line with the EIO+AE combo also btw as well as the GT item distributor for it

Dream-Master commented 6 years ago

you need to write me some text to understand it an make quests. I never used or build it

repo-alt commented 6 years ago

That is my screen at the top, but I used OC, not SFM. (LUA scripting is not exactly suitable to be explained via quests)

Dream-Master commented 6 years ago

do it as easy as possible or wite the quests. I never ever used it before. Try to explain it a Noob.

0lafe commented 6 years ago

As someone that used SFM, the basic ideas can totally be put in a quest without doing it for you. Maybe have some stuff explaining how to detect items, use AE with more than 9 items per craft, and that's essentially automated assembly line.

There's also some nice ways to split it between 2 sfms and run an almost infinite amount of them, but it's a little more complicated to explain, but maybe just mention it's possible.

But at the same time, I kinda see it like the botania challenges. You're meant to do it yourself, but you can always ask in the discord or something. It's a fun thing to figure out once you get it.

repo-alt commented 6 years ago

I suggest you do that, because with OC all I can do is publish the scripts themselves, which is a bit cheating.

DualBallers commented 6 years ago

Hey @repo-alt, thanks for joining the discussion. I guess I must have misread your post while going through discord looking for a "simple" solution. I agree that OC is definitely not suitable for a quest :-D

@0lafe yeah it was my initial thought that the SFM quest should just point towards the correct blocks to use, to help players like me understand the possibilities and strengths of the mod. And then maybe explain in simple terms how to setup the code-block structure to detect/send items for crafting in the assembly line.

Sure you can ask in discord, but it's nice when there is a quest that pushes you in the right direction from the beginning when playing with the more advanced mods.

Prewf commented 6 years ago

And then maybe explain in simple terms how to setup the code-block structure to detect/send items for crafting in the assembly line.

I'm all for this, but you'd literally need a wall of text to explain all the aspects of SFM and I don't know how many people would go for that..

This is very similar to how the math behind Large Turbines isn't explained anywhere in the game. It's one of those things where you have to access external info yourself (either watching a youtube video or reading a wiki page) and then asking questions in discord.

EDIT: this is actually a PERFECT application of the new horizons wiki btw

Prewf commented 6 years ago

Perhaps a single quest informing the player that SFM can automate the assembly line would suffice? And the quest can be about building the main inventory manager block. The "how to flowchart a solution" after that would be up to the player to find out for themselves.

0lafe commented 6 years ago

I'd like that, I think telling people that it can be automated is important

richardhendricks commented 5 years ago

Could there be a simpler automation to use with SFM to give players ideas? Maybe with the LCR to start with? Or perhaps ore processing?

I don't have any experience with SFM and the AL to create quests, but if someone else writes them up I can add them to the questbook.

DualBallers commented 5 years ago

By the way, it is indeed possible to nearly automate the input to the AL using only EnderIO. Each chest handles a specific item type (motor, pump,piston,...) and the output colors filters towards input to ULV bus 1, 2, 3 and so on. It's not pretty but it does the job nicely as long as no AL recipes are crafted simultaneously... image

richardhendricks commented 5 years ago

image image Unlocks with IV circuit mainframe. image image image

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