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Suggestion - Higher Chance of Tiny Americium Dust From Americium Combs, or Lower Power Requirements #3514

Closed Teirdalin closed 5 years ago

Teirdalin commented 6 years ago

Which modpack version are you using?

2.0.4.6 #

If in multiplayer; On which server does this happen?

Prospercraft #

What did you try to do, and what did you expect to happen?

Trying to process Americium Combs through several zpm centrifuges, and getting only a tiny, reasonably useless amount of yield for a huge power consumption. #

What do you suggest instead/what changes do you propose?

A lower power requirement for processing Americium Combs, as the only way it can be a viably useful bee is if you massively bulk process it, which anyone who can reasonably do probably wouldn't really need Americium.

Or a higher chance, maybe 50% or 75% as to actually get something for the power and effort it takes to process these 36,864,000 eu combs..

Dream-Master commented 6 years ago

how expensive is fusion ?

ScriptedPiky commented 6 years ago

Americium fusion recipe costs a total 4,718,592 EU 49152 EU/t (1.5 amps LuV) Over the course of 4.80 seconds (95 ticks?) for 16L of Americium, or 1/9 or a nugget worth of Americium. 42,467,328 total EU is required for a single Americium ingot along with an overall time of 43.2 seconds

Teirdalin commented 6 years ago

Getting that 5% nine times in a row would be fairly impressive.

With those numbers and the 5% in account~ On average it'd be 14.4 minutes, processing 180 combs for a single ingot, taking 849,346,560 eu.

But fairly sure the numbers you posted may have been wrong, unless it's different in the more latest version; If it is 100% of a tiny dust now at only 4.7mill EU then I suppose it's fine and this can be closed. lol

Info for it in 2.0.4.6 is~

Total: 36,864,000 EU Usage: 30,720 EU/t Voltage: 30,720 EU Amperage: 1 Time: 60.00 secs

50% Beeswax 5% Tiny Pile of Americium Dust 10% Tiny Pile of Lutetium Dust

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So taking that into account, it should take 20 minutes, and 6,635,520,000 EU for a single ingot.

Dream-Master commented 6 years ago

Is this a blancing issue only on Americum side or othre bees too?

ScriptedPiky commented 6 years ago

We would love balancing for other bees as well (looking at high tier combs and other combs that have low chances and high energy demanding costs)

Teirdalin commented 6 years ago

Yeah, looking at the higher tier combs the % rates are kinda; awful for tiny dusts and the power usages required.

Neutronium taking 147,456,000 at 122,880eu/t for a 5% tiny dust.. lol

Dream-Master commented 6 years ago

in the futute recipes will not give pure dust anymore better crushed or purified ore like original gt combs.

Dream-Master commented 6 years ago

using uumatter or so. Will check how gt code handle the recipes.

Dream-Master commented 6 years ago

Sure. Do a full list with suggestions and we will add this next release.

Teirdalin commented 6 years ago

Thanks Dream, hopefully the people here can find a way to make combs funner and more useful later game. Personally I'm off to sleep now as it's like 3:26am here. lol

MineAnPlay commented 6 years ago

Also next version has a modified version of my PR (300 ticks for MV+ recipes except for the highest tier combs (I think Black Plutonium, Infinity Catalyst and Infinity). So so the math with those values as well to see how it goes.