Plasma Rebalance [RFC]

[johnch18]

At present, plasma is supremely overpowered. For LuV gen, you just need some deuterium production and a fluid drilling rig in order to reach millions of EU/t. At ZPM, you merely need to cycle molten silver through a system of machines in order to reach 10s of millions of EU/t. Power generation does not develop much from there. It's incredibly disappointing compared to pre-fusion power sources and I think it can be overhauled. My suggestion:

• Remove Plasma Turbines
• Add Plasma Heat Exchangers that input some kind of metal in ingot or block form and output the liquid form of the plasma and vaporized metal fluid.
• Vaporized metal fluid can be put into an LHE with water (or some "better" fluid that gets bonuses in turbines when used with vaporized metal) to output Steam/SHSteam/etc and molten metal.
• This fluid is passed through turbines as per usual This would greatly enrich plasma generation and make it far more interesting.

Another concept that could be useful is mixing plasmas to produce more energetic mixtures, requiring multiple Fusion Reactors and getting more energy as a result.

Another thing that needs to be considered is adding plasmas post-ZPM. Tin Plasma should not be the end-all-be-all of power generation, especially in light of the molecular transformer and void miner.

I'm interested in all of your thoughts.

[johnch18]

Again, me using reality as a blueprint doesn't mean I'm averse to sci-fi stuff.

[Anarack]

Another option that does not change how fusion is in the end game is to change how the reactor itself scales. You can tweak the speed multi given by going up one level of reactor. this allows you to keep endgame power output the same if you tweak the recipe to match.

Ex lets say 1 mk 3 reactor makes 1000 KEU/t base before turbines and this same recipe makes 250 KEU/t in a mk2. If you wanted to keep the same mk3 output while nerfing the initial recipe you could change the multi to scale by lets say 4x speed per reactor instead of 2x. This means a mk I would have to produce 62.5 KEU/t of plasma. This scaling could be anything as long as the tick times mostly line up.

[Glease]

3 months in case this issue goes stale

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[alphaNOVAircraft]

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[Glease]

The way you formulated your sentence make me confused. Maybe I'm dumb after all.

[botn365]

i like this idea but instead of water and steam maby carbon dioxide can be used wich needs a more complex cycle heating -> turbine -> heat recoup -> cooling -> compressor -> heating and sinse that requires way higer temps to work compared to steam

[GeicowithaBango]

isnt it already: plasma —> hot coolant—>steam + water?

[johnch18]

Nope, it's plasma -> turbine

[GeicowithaBango]

lol yeah, i mean if you go the LHE way

[johnch18]

The LHE is not involved with plasma power at all

[Hikari1nVoid]

Stop these laggy nerfings unless you have a better alternatives. Multiplayer servers are suffering from these extra machines due to nerfing.(tps:4~7) Maybe we should have a command for extremely hardcore single players to enable these insane rebalancing.

[0lafe]

maybe people continuing to spam things when they beat the game shouldn't be encouraged?

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