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Add a handicap / cheat to treat guitar / bass like drums (no strumming required) #666

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
We need to determine how harshly to penalize players who use this handicap.

Some players like to use standard handheld XBOX or Playstation 1/2
controllers to play rhythm games - as in Frequency and Amplitude.  Mainly
for these players, we should add a handicap that allows every guitar / bass
note to be tapped individually (just like drums) and treats every wrong tap
as a fully-bad strum (just like drums).

This will double as a fun handicap to play with when using guitar
controllers.  

Score must be penalized appropriately.

Original issue reported on code.google.com by chris.paiano@gmail.com on 2 Apr 2009 at 1:03

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I think that most songs having alt. picking strands that are next to impossible 
to
hit on a standard controller is a penalty enough. If you see scores between a GH
XPlorer controller on Raining Blood (GH3) and a standard XBOX controller, the 
guitar
controller obviously has the upper hand due to strumming.

Issue 666 :P

Original comment by ktownegg...@gmail.com on 13 Apr 2009 at 6:56

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
True, but not all songs are like that... there should most def. be a handicap on
this.  There is no way we're adding a "no strum" modification without a 
handicap of
some type.  It affects gameplay; some songs will become easier, some songs will
become harder.  All we care about, though, is that with this enabled - the user 
will
not be playing any song as intended.  So - handicap.

Original comment by chris.paiano@gmail.com on 14 Apr 2009 at 12:12

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Issue 808 has been merged into this issue.

Original comment by lysdestic@gmail.com on 2 Jun 2009 at 3:36

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
This shouldn't deduct any points off of your score, because there are a few who 
actually have only one hand to play. I was thinking for this your score can he 
in 
the high scores, but will have a little 'H' symbol next to your score.

Original comment by mrhappen...@gmail.com on 26 Jun 2009 at 2:23

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I don't care about score! I just HATE crappy guitar controllers! I Like the 
rhythm
game for what it is. FUN.

Original comment by negative...@gmail.com on 26 Jun 2009 at 10:44

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I really support this feature. I won't be playing this game for like high 
scores and
stuff. I just really enjoy being able to play whatever song I want. 

Original comment by eam...@gmail.com on 19 Dec 2009 at 6:47

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
If this gets implemented, allowing for song.ini to trigger a no strum handicap 
for a
given instrument track would be great for making synth tracks.

Original comment by raynebc on 6 Jan 2010 at 4:18

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
playing "pseudo-guitar" games is stupid, get a real guitar

Original comment by a.pedr...@gmail.com on 5 Feb 2010 at 8:39

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
I'll remember that the next time I'm killing some hookers in GTA.

Original comment by lysdestic@gmail.com on 5 Feb 2010 at 8:45

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Please add this! :)

I don't care if it makes your score come out to zero, I need this feature to 
use my
real guitar as a MIDI controller effectively.. 

Original comment by 60tonan...@gmail.com on 5 May 2010 at 1:55

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Issue 274 has been merged into this issue.

Original comment by fuzio...@gmail.com on 3 Sep 2010 at 6:31

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
There is a pretty high reward to difficulty to implement ratio for this 
feature, so here's to hoping it gets added.  Even without pro-keys support 
native in FoFiX, people could set up a fake keys chart by doing the following:

1. Create the chart so that each guitar track is a different range of 5 keys 
(ie. PART GUITAR is keys 1 through 5, PART RHYTHM is keys 6 through 10, etc.).
2. Connect a synthesizer and map some keys to button controls in the game
3. Play the track in multiplayer mode.  Each of the tracks would be played by 
the one person using the synthesizer, so he'd have to make sure each player 
loaded the correct instrument part so that the left-most synthesizer key was 
mapped to fret 1 of the fret board on the left of the screen, etc.

This way, a person could simulate up to 20 keys worth of synth in a single 
chart (5 keys for each of the 4 playable guitar parts).  Once FoFiX runs 
smoothly enough with this many players, and if it ever got support for custom 
instrument parts, a fifth part could be added to this procedure to make it the 
Pro-Keys full playable range of 25 notes.  This would be the easiest way to 
emulate pro keys playback in FoFiX, even though the experience won't be the 
same (ie. the octave shifting that RB3 will use), but the people creating the 
chart can make section markers, etc. to label the parts where the user would be 
shifting to an octave on either side so that they scroll by accordingly.

If this was implemented, and the RB3 MIDIs were acquired, it would be trivial 
to convert them to a suitable 5 instrument part chart to be played this way.  
Of course, to be very usable, the fretboards would have to be rendered in 
proper order from left to right.  A custom mod/theme could probably be crafted 
to make line them up nicely for this purpose.

Original comment by raynebc on 3 Sep 2010 at 7:09

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
i really want to play this game without fret.. i missed the times when i was 
playing it with ps2 controller :'(

Original comment by m.arfiya...@gmail.com on 10 Aug 2012 at 2:59

GoogleCodeExporter commented 9 years ago
Hey guys, please put the no strumming in a diferent type of controller (like 
drums), and on the scores, create and different category for the dualshocks, 
so, this will not affect the guitar/keyboard users, and will gave the 
possibility for us, dualshock players, play on dualshock.

Original comment by Uzumaki....@hotmail.com on 13 Dec 2012 at 7:35