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Increase the cheat code limit #133

Closed GoogleCodeExporter closed 8 years ago

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
What steps will reproduce the problem?
1.go cheats menu
2.choose cheat window
3.

What is the expected output? What do you see instead?

Be able to load all codes or be able to choose from all list not the first 
10,only. The pat files usually have more than 10 codes and sometimes to get 
infinite lives, for example you need to select 2 or 3 codes. It’s a nonsense 
for me, the emulator goes beyond the perfection and cheats works perfectly but 
the ones that you can choose, only. 
Your GUI is magnificent, I like a lot it, thank you.

What version of the emulator are you using (official, SVN revision,...)?
WII 3.2E

Please provide any additional information below (Video settings, Console
region,...)

Original issue reported on code.google.com by ferran...@hotmail.com on 5 Nov 2010 at 10:11

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
I agree. 

The limitation is there because I didn't really took the time to allow more and 
this is easier to have it designed like this (rather than having a scrolling 
list). 

What limits should it have in your opinion ? Keep in mind it can NOT be 
unlimited because of memory limitations on the Wii (even more on the Game Cube)

Original comment by ekeeke31@gmail.com on 5 Nov 2010 at 10:42

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
Thank you for answering :) I’ve looked at pat files that I have about 256 and 
the biggest one is 13 Kb and it has 319 codes, I know that memory size  depends 
on fields and registers. A structure for pat file if you decide to make your 
own format can be for example :
1st  field TEXT 11 characters for the code (I’ve seen 2 types of code with 9 
characters pe BLAT-AA3R or 11 characters 011598:0600) I don’t know if there 
are more types
2nd field TEXT 250 characters or more for description 
3rd field TEXT OR NUMERIC for state on (1)/off(0)
About registers 1000 per file can be enough
I don’t know how much WII memory can take it maybe 100 kb can be enough. 
About standards of pat files I don’t know if there is one. The files that I 
have can be loaded by most know emulators Kega, Gens. The files are loaded but 
not modified. 
I remember that an emulator author develop a system that when you need 3 or 
more codes for a cheat enabling one automatically enables the others, if my 
memory not fail the developer was Sardu because the emulator works with DOS  
but I am not 100% sure. 
I attach you a file patch.rar with all pat files that I have and a program 
called codebook.exe (The big book of Game Genie codes) where you can get more 
pat files.

Original comment by ferran...@hotmail.com on 6 Nov 2010 at 4:11

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
If forgot to tell the biggest file is STFI2TU.PAT

Original comment by ferran...@hotmail.com on 6 Nov 2010 at 4:16

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
If anybody who read this topic are interested on cheat a present an other way 
of cheating ;)

Original comment by ferran...@hotmail.com on 6 Nov 2010 at 4:22

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GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
250 is a good limit in my opinion (if you look at your bigger one, a lot are 
duplicated, who use all those cheats anyway ?)
256 characters for cheat description is overkilling, 64 is enough imo.
Sacrificing 100 Kb just for a cheat list also seems unreasonable, this is not 
gonna be like your emulators on PC sorry, the Game Cube only has 24 MB and if 
we want additional emulation features (SMS integration, Sega CD, etc), we need 
to spare memory space, this is already pretty much filled because of the GUI.

I have no idea how you could enable codes automatically when more than one are 
required for a cheat, I can't magically guess what codes are bound together 
since they all look the same. Maybe by using the same description field or a 
specific description field character. This is definitively not a priority right 
now, I'm sure you can enjoy your cheating the way it is.

Original comment by ekeeke31@gmail.com on 6 Nov 2010 at 5:57

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
Yes you are right 250 is good for me too, I said 1000 because I’ve looked at 
street fighter file (I never played this game), for my experience with PC 
emulators if you enable all  cheats you can hang the emulation, sometimes 
enabling one cheat can hang it too. You should put on FAQ that cheats can hang 
emulation to aboit people’s issue reports, because I think that is not an 
emulator’s fault.

For me 64 kb is good too, I said 100 kb for the worst worst case ;) but never I 
used larger files. And always you can split the file selecting the cheats that 
you need. For example on Starflight (UE) (REV01) [!].pat with this 3 codes you 
have all
ATBT-AA2A   [ 1] MASTER CODE--MUST BE ENTERED
ACGA-CACW   \_
ACGA-CACY   / [20] Phaser costs 0 instead of 450,000 
buy/sell the phaser and you have infinite money ;)
I know that game cube has little memory (I have a blue one, for collection), I 
thought that it has 40 Mb RAM and 2 Mb of video RAM, now I must change the 
description to 24 Mb :_(   You are right cheat it’s a secondary feature. And 
always on cheating if you want to go "far beyond", you can do it using a PC 
emulator an export a state or smr to genplus-gx .
About bonded codes I’ll try to find the emulator that do this I think that 
emulator was Genecyst but this is an unneeded feature, too. I remember that it 
has his own pat file format and I remember that bond the codes like this 
ACGA-CACW+ACGA-CACY Phaser costs 0 instead of 450,000 
For me your cheat system is perfect now :)

Original comment by ferran...@hotmail.com on 7 Nov 2010 at 2:22

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
I had the opportunity to test the new cheat system out last night (been busy as 
of late) and I am impressed with it! However I did notice at random that during 
adding cheats/descriptions that the Wii suddenly rebooted so I don't know what 
happened there. :P But otherwise it works great! :)

I agree with the limitations, but instead of 250 wouldn't 255 make more sense? 
For the description it should be around 100 to be safe (I'm sure 64 would be 
enough but wanna be safe there).

Also, is it possible to have a tool or something that can convert Kega .pat 
files to be used with Genesis Plus GX (by changing the descriptions to 
uppercase and adding a 'status' with it being OFF by default)? If so, I'd be 
happy to convert a good amount of cheats and share them to anyone who wants 
them. :)

Original comment by kingofch...@gmail.com on 8 Nov 2010 at 5:10

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
There is currently a memory leak in the cheat menu that will make your Wii 
crash if you stay too long or go too often into the cheat menu. It is fixed for 
the next release.

As for limitations, no value really makes more sense than others (and off 
course bigger is safer), it's just that I must set a good compromise between 
usability and memory occupation ;-)

Kega .pat files should already be compatible (at least, the ones I made myself 
were), cheats are OFF by default since no OFF/ON string is found and the 
description remains the same (it's just the description editor that currently 
only outputs upper case, this was done mainly for simplicity). I also verified 
that updated .pat files kept compatible with Kega.

Original comment by ekeeke31@gmail.com on 8 Nov 2010 at 11:00

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
Excellent! :D

I'll load up all my Kega PAT files and start playing games.

P.S. You really don't wanna see my Sonic 3 code that consists of 25 codes for a 
single effect. ;)

Original comment by kingofch...@gmail.com on 9 Nov 2010 at 3:32

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
>There is currently a memory leak in the cheat menu that will make your Wii 
crash if >you stay too long or go too often into the cheat menu. It is fixed 
for the next >release.

A part of this memory leak, some cheat codes or special combinations of them 
can crash Wii/PC too. Tested with varius genesis emulators PC/WII.
About enable codes is there any known limit?

Original comment by ferran...@hotmail.com on 13 Nov 2010 at 12:20

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago 
Sorry, I don't understand what you are trying to say.

The memory leak/crash is a bug specific to the GC/Wii version and has nothing 
to do with special codes combinations. Some bad codes can prevent games from 
working but that's a different issue here and would do the same on real 
hardware. 

The limit is what you see in the emulator menu, 10 cheats per games, enabled or 
disabled does not matter.

Original comment by ekeeke31@gmail.com on 13 Nov 2010 at 4:35

GoogleCodeExporter commented 8 years ago

Original comment by ekeeke31@gmail.com on 4 Dec 2010 at 5:24