Open Source

[nickba86]

Hi, how are you? I love to buy the hardware but for me is important to read and modify for my self your code. Can you release the files before compilation and tell us the programming language. Thank you! Kind Regards

[GeekMagicClock]

Hi, no plans for the time being, but possible, thanks.

[mowtschan]

I would love to see the source code.

[okeeffm]

I would also love to see the code as clearly some good programming is behind this and it would benefit the open source community which is what this all about.

[bdiez]

Is it posible use custom firmware Programmed as an ESP32 via usb?

[maxbrito500]

Hello, the hardware is cute. I understand you are worried about releasing the whole firmware albeit people here would help to improve it and this would increase sales.

Maybe it would be possible to release as opensource a small firmware example?

This way you keep the larger firmware but we could write other functions as experiment.

[GeekMagicClock]

Hi, what do you think if there's a version for developer? With the basic SDK, shows how to display images/text, get url request/response.

[nickba86]

Hi! That would be great for me! If you realise that I would certainly buy the hardware cuz I love it but I really need to put my custom code. Thanks!

[Yelles]

+1 I'd also like to have access to it to add functionality (being a developer myself).

And for my part, I'd definitely buy even more smalltvpro if I could customize them.

I can only see advantages on my side 🚀

[makuser]

Is it posible use custom firmware Programmed as an ESP32 via usb?

USB is only connected for power. You can however open up the unit and just flash it via GPIOs.

[nowinskp]

Same here, I'd love to see the source code and be able to modify it to my needs.

Or at least theme it.

[b4rtt]

Same here

[benjaminkjh]

I agree. It could be great if the source code was open. I am sure that the community would be able to develop a lot of great features ☺️

[b4rtt]

@GeekMagicClock What do you think? I have about 5 applications I would like to write for this hardware. I have a lot of plans. I think it could boost sales of this hardware.

[duckduckdog]

@GeekMagicClock I am charmed by the product line, but I know that I would end up more annoyed with everything it can't do instead of appreciating everything it can.

No single developer will be able to make everyone happy, plus every neat project someone comes up with will be free advertising.

[nowinskp]

I think @GeekMagicClock fears their software will just get copied and distributed on copycat versions of their product - and I get it. However, open sourcing this will allow people to do much more, eg. release free custom versions of the software that support many different features a single dev cannot just code and maintain themselves.

If this is played right, eg. a site for uploading this custom software versions is made, along with the shop to buy the original product, this could boost the sales regardles of potential copy-cats that will appear on the market.

[GeekMagicClock]

Hello, dear all, I have just come back after the long festival chinese lunar new year, I see your great passion in this, as @nowinskp mentioned, that is the key point why it is not open sourced for now, I have experience in that, the copies annoy us a lot, they showed no respect.

But I was planing a new hardware project, esp32-s3 with larger Ram and ROM size, with the same box and screen size. This is a compromise initial idea, I have some reasons to do this:

1) esp32-s3 is more powerful, I also want to learn more of its features through this open source. 2) esp32-s3 can be reprogramed without external serial chip, just one usb cable with data is possible. smalltv or smalltv-pro can't be done without external chip. 3) At least 10 sets of GPIO are reserved inside the box for easy expansion, external sensors are possible. 4) We'll offer some basic code samples, no need to open the source of smalltv-pro, it's already a commercial product.

And the model would be GeekMagic S3.

What do you think? Please leave your messages, thank you.

[florentineprinzessinzusachsen]

And the model would be GeekMagic S3. What do you think? Please leave your messages, thank you.

@GeekMagicClock That would be great.

Still I'd love an SDK or basic instructions/documentation on how to use my own firmware or extend the existing on the smalltv and smalltv pro.

[b4rtt]

Hello, dear all, I have just come back after the long festival chinese lunar new year, I see your great passion in this, as @nowinskp mentioned, that is the key point why it is not open sourced for now, I have experience in that, the copies annoy us a lot, they showed no respect.

But I was planing a new hardware project, esp32-s3 with larger Ram and ROM size, with the same box and screen size. This is a compromise initial idea, I have some reasons to do this:

1. esp32-s3 is more powerful, I also want to learn more of its features through this open source.
2. esp32-s3 can be reprogramed without external serial chip, just one usb cable with data is possible. smalltv or smalltv-pro can't be done without external chip.
3. At least 10 sets of GPIO are reserved inside the box for easy expansion, external sensors are possible.
4. We'll offer some basic code samples, no need to open the source of smalltv-pro, it's already a commercial product.

And the model would be GeekMagic S3.

What do you think? Please leave your messages, thank you.

Sounds awesome!

[CezarMihnea]

Hello, dear all, I have just come back after the long festival chinese lunar new year, I see your great passion in this, as @nowinskp mentioned, that is the key point why it is not open sourced for now, I have experience in that, the copies annoy us a lot, they showed no respect.

But I was planing a new hardware project, esp32-s3 with larger Ram and ROM size, with the same box and screen size. This is a compromise initial idea, I have some reasons to do this:

1. esp32-s3 is more powerful, I also want to learn more of its features through this open source.
2. esp32-s3 can be reprogramed without external serial chip, just one usb cable with data is possible. smalltv or smalltv-pro can't be done without external chip.
3. At least 10 sets of GPIO are reserved inside the box for easy expansion, external sensors are possible.
4. We'll offer some basic code samples, no need to open the source of smalltv-pro, it's already a commercial product.

And the model would be GeekMagic S3.

What do you think? Please leave your messages, thank you.

This sounds awesome! I will sure but some of these when they appear. When do you think it'll be ready? Also, the price of s3 is bigger than the one for small TV pro... So at what price do you expect to sell it?

[nowinskp]

Hello, dear all, I have just come back after the long festival chinese lunar new year, I see your great passion in this, as @nowinskp mentioned, that is the key point why it is not open sourced for now, I have experience in that, the copies annoy us a lot, they showed no respect.

But I was planing a new hardware project, esp32-s3 with larger Ram and ROM size, with the same box and screen size. This is a compromise initial idea, I have some reasons to do this:

1. esp32-s3 is more powerful, I also want to learn more of its features through this open source.
2. esp32-s3 can be reprogramed without external serial chip, just one usb cable with data is possible. smalltv or smalltv-pro can't be done without external chip.
3. At least 10 sets of GPIO are reserved inside the box for easy expansion, external sensors are possible.
4. We'll offer some basic code samples, no need to open the source of smalltv-pro, it's already a commercial product.

And the model would be GeekMagic S3.

What do you think? Please leave your messages, thank you.

Sounds great! Ideally you'd have some sort of plugin support so people can write their own stuff without the need to change original code.

[duckduckdog]

Clones and copies are a hard problem to solve, but they aren't your customers. Let them fight each other just to be a little cheaper because they have nothing else to offer.

Fight to make the best, best supported & most capable devices you can & you will have loyal customers.

Don't think about people who only want to take & forget people who want to give and help you build things more people want to buy.

[Yelles]

Hello, dear all, I have just come back after the long festival chinese lunar new year, I see your great passion in this, as @nowinskp mentioned, that is the key point why it is not open sourced for now, I have experience in that, the copies annoy us a lot, they showed no respect.

But I was planing a new hardware project, esp32-s3 with larger Ram and ROM size, with the same box and screen size. This is a compromise initial idea, I have some reasons to do this:

1. esp32-s3 is more powerful, I also want to learn more of its features through this open source.
2. esp32-s3 can be reprogramed without external serial chip, just one usb cable with data is possible. smalltv or smalltv-pro can't be done without external chip.
3. At least 10 sets of GPIO are reserved inside the box for easy expansion, external sensors are possible.
4. We'll offer some basic code samples, no need to open the source of smalltv-pro, it's already a commercial product.

And the model would be GeekMagic S3.

What do you think? Please leave your messages, thank you.

Sounds awesome, but may be you could implement this feature first : https://github.com/GeekMagicClock/smalltv-pro/issues/16

I think this will be enough for a lot of people.