GeekyDeaks / g29-hall-sensor-mod

Hall Sensor Modification for the G29/G27 pedals
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Open Skidude88 opened 4 years ago

Skidude88 commented 4 years ago

How do I place my order? 🤣

GeekyDeaks commented 4 years ago

Ask nicely and bring beer...

Skidude88 commented 4 years ago

Pro-forma? 😁

Will it work on console? Other G2x hall mods say pc only, (guessing due to no calibration on ps4)

GeekyDeaks commented 4 years ago

working on it! quietly confident, although my grasp of magnetic field mechanics is a little shoddy, so resorting to a liberal dash of trial and error :D

neilser commented 4 years ago

I am pretty sure that the G27 will behave in an identical fashion to how it behaves with the pots, because it internally self calibrates on every power-up (in fact, I think on every reconnection of the pedal connector, but I can't remember). I don't have a G29, and I seem to recall that their "auto calibration" behaviour is just a little different, so maybe more scope for issues...?

isopix commented 4 years ago

Hi,

It's awesome. Previously CellMod and now hall sensors for G29 ^^ I will be interested in both mods x2. Waiting for list of components to buy and some photos/renders.

The only thing is lacking is documentation. No photos, no info what sensors to buy, but I guess it's in early stage. Github doesn't show preview for .SCAD files, so I can only guess from separate magnet mounts, it doesn't use integrated rotary hall sensors (that can be mechanically used in place of pots, have you considered them? People put them in joysticks[to replace weaed-off]. Probably your solution is better, only wondered if you know about them ;-)

I wonder if it will require Arduino, or something like that, so wouldn't it be smart to share microcontroller (and firmware) with @Skidude88 digital cellmod. Does @Skidude88 latest design got any disadvantages (in it's latest form) over you analog CellMod or is it simply way to go now?

P.S. Sorry for not replying so long, but was cheated by one seller (wanted to buy 2nd G29 to build two simulator for kids), but was very dissapointed when judge rejected the case in the end, and lost interest with tinkering with that stuff. I'm still planning to buy second wheel, but prices of used wheels are still 3x higher than two years ago (when sim fans started massively buying DD wheels, selling old stuff very cheaply, because marked saturation.). Logitech pumps up prices too with every revision, so Logitech wheels costs nearly as much as Thrustmaster ones(which doesn't work on linux unfortunately) I'm still hunting for occasion and even did some research some time ago and from information I gathered Logitech G29(and newer) doesn't work without PCB inside wheel(not base), so it's very hard to make replaceble wheels, because original(and 2rd party) PCBs are very picey. G27(and G25) works without this PCB(but they are so cheap I bought box of them), but G25 and G27 are usually as pricey as G29/G920 or photos are so bad that's hard to guess condition and it's generally risky to buy so old, used. bechanical stuff trough internet...

best regards and thanks for sharing your hard work with community for free!

GeekyDeaks commented 4 years ago

Hi @isopix - sorry about the lack of documentation. I'm still playing around at the moment, but if you want to see what they look like you can check it out in a thread here: https://www.racedepartment.com/threads/g27-g29-hall-sensor-mod.190696/post-3267392

I think it will be compatible with the G29 wheelbase, but I haven't got around to testing yet

isopix commented 4 years ago

Thanks for the reply. I think you can put link to this thread on github page, to avoid flood of questions about that. As I understand from racedepartment thread it's solution that already gives similar results to stock pot(being less noisy), so already can be used ad drop in replacement. Is it finished product, or WIP still, and it's better to wait with ordering parts?

On 10/25/20, Scott Deakin notifications@github.com wrote:

Hi @isopix - sorry about the lack of documentation. I'm still playing around at the moment, but if you want to see what they look like you can check it out in a thread here: https://www.racedepartment.com/threads/g27-g29-hall-sensor-mod.190696/post-3267392

I think it will be compatible with the G29 wheelbase, but I haven't got around to testing yet

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GeekyDeaks commented 4 years ago

Hi @isopix - it's definitely still WIP, but I'm hoping to wrap it up in a week or two.

The plan has always been to make it a drop-in replacement if at all possible and it's looking very promising, but I want to test it with the G29 wheelbase this week to confirm.

It needs a bit of calibration during installation to make sure the range is ok, which is basically twisting the hall sensor holder until the rest voltage is the same as the pot.

GeekyDeaks commented 3 years ago

hey @isopix - updated the repo with some images and also an alternative design which completely replaces the pot instead

isopix commented 3 years ago

Thanks for the reply.

You got one "sesno" typo.

I understand that you've tested A1314, but you are recommending A1324, but A1319 would be betteer suited for G29?

And for brake pedal, do you recommends cell-mod instead of this, also for cheap/simple stands? (I was reading that for cell mods, you needs solid rig with mounted seat)

On 11/29/20, Scott Deakin notifications@github.com wrote:

hey @isopix - updated the repo with some images and also an alternative design which completely replaces the pot instead

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GeekyDeaks commented 3 years ago

A1314 is another typo 😄 should be A1324

Surprisingly, the A1324 works fine at 3.3v - so I never got around to buying the A1319, but since it is officially rated for 3.3v, it might be the better choice

Still recommend the load cell mod for the brake. This doesn't really help for anything other than dirty/noisy potentiometers. You will need a sturdy setup, but you can get away with linking the pedals to your seat rather than a full rig

LuckyTite commented 2 years ago

Good Day.

i would like to ask, i am new to the SIM racing and modding scene, and have a little electronics background.

  1. does this replace the pots? a. can it be wired directly into a g29 wheelbase? b. or do i need an ardu board
  2. how does the wiring go?

im planning to buy a second hand g29 and i want to test this out, i have access to 3d printing.

GeekyDeaks commented 2 years ago

Hi!

  1. does this replace the pots?

Electrically yes, physically no, it is designed to engage with the potentiometer shaft. I did make another model (the black PLA one) that is a complete replacement pot, but I never used it for an extended period of time so I'm not sure if it would be reliable enough (although I guess you could just print a replacement when required)

a. can it be wired directly into a g29 wheelbase? b. or do i need an ardu board

It is voltage compatible with the G29 wheelbase. The purpose of this was to make sure it could still be used on a PS4. The strength of the magnets and their distance from the sensor are important though, so you might need to tweak the spacing in the model to make sure it doesn't saturate the sensor. I'd probably advise measuring the voltage levels prior to starting to get a reference

  1. how does the wiring go?

The A1324 has 3 pins. VCC, GND and VOUT, so you simply measure which ones are VCC and GND on your pot and then connect them appropriately with the remaining signal wire from the central pin on the pot going to VOUT

im planning to buy a second hand g29 and i want to test this out, i have access to 3d printing.

Good luck! I have replaced my G29 now, but I got a good two years of fun out of it and it's a really great wheel and pedal set for the price.