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2023 GMT for Geodesy Short Course - Instructors discussion #33

Closed maxrjones closed 11 months ago

maxrjones commented 1 year ago

The deadline for proposing a short course for the 2023 Technical Short Courses is February 13. I'm opening this issue for discussion about organizing and teaching the short course.

My suggestion is to submit an application with a different proposed format than past years, more similar to the PyGMT short course at EGU, to make timing more flexible for volunteer instructors. In this case, instructors could record presentations ahead of time. We could also host a couple "office hours" where instructors are available to help students with projects. I think it would also be nice to have the wrappers featured a bit more.

@GenericMappingTools/gmt-team and @GenericMappingTools/pygmt-team - can you please share if you'd be interested in contributing to this year's should course and any comments on the proposed new structure?

The application questions have been copied to https://hackmd.io/@pygmt/Hk3DQyxas for drafting.

Esteban82 commented 1 year ago

I am interest.

About the structure, all the presentations would be available at the beginning, right?

maxrjones commented 1 year ago

About the structure, all the presentations would be available at the beginning, right?

Yeah, the presentations would be available online (probably through YouTube) in advance of the office hours.

joa-quim commented 1 year ago

Yes, I'm in too. And fully agree that we should focus more in the wrappers (I've been advocating that for the last 2 editions).

In fact I actually think we should aim to a transition mode, where we show how things are done in hardcore CLI as comparing to wrappers.

It is my conviction for some years already that very few new users are willing to learn the GMT Alphabet language

PaulWessel commented 1 year ago

The only caveat is that we are setting up students for GMTSAR which is all CLI. So we have to be sensitive to what Sandwell needs us to do.

KristofKoch commented 1 year ago

Not sure if I could be helpful here …?

maxrjones commented 1 year ago

Not sure if I could be helpful here …?

You could definitely be helpful if you're interested! You'd be welcome to join for any of the parts, including recording one of the "lectures" or helping out with the office hours.

Xiaohua-Eric-Xu commented 1 year ago

I am interested and happy to help!

KristofKoch commented 1 year ago

Ok, @maxrjones - count me in.

Esteban82 commented 1 year ago

I am thinking that for the office hours we could offer different languagues. It would be like last year but we could announce it in advance. I think that could encourage students that are don't speak english fluently. Each instructor should say in which languages he/she can help.

The languagues could be: english, spanish, portuguese?, norwegian?, ...

maxrjones commented 1 year ago

I am thinking that for the office hours we could offer different languagues. It would be like last year but we could announce it in advance. I think that could encourage students that are don't speak english fluently. Each instructor should say in which languages he/she can help.

The languagues could be: english, spanish, portuguese?, norwegian?, ...

Great idea! For me, I'll need to help in english.

The only caveat is that we are setting up students for GMTSAR which is all CLI. So we have to be sensitive to what Sandwell needs us to do.

Do you know if Dave is on GitHub? I think we can refine the topics after submission to make sure we have enough CLI covered, but we will need to know what dates they are suggesting for the GMTSAR workshop before submitting our application.

Esteban82 commented 1 year ago

Do you know if Dave is on GitHub?

https://github.com/dsandwell

maxrjones commented 1 year ago

Hi @dsandwell, we're coordinating a GMT proposal for the EarthScope short courses this summer. If you're leading a GMTSAR shortcourse proposal, do you mind sharing which dates you've selected so that we can make sure the proposed GMT dates happen first?

dsandwell commented 1 year ago

Hi Max,

How about GMTSAR July 25-28 or August 1-4?

Would that work for the GMT course earlier?

Thanks,

David

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maxrjones commented 1 year ago

Hi Max, How about GMTSAR July 25-28 or August 1-4? Would that work for the GMT course earlier? Thanks, David

Great, thanks for the information!

@joa-quim @Esteban82 @KristofKoch @Xiaohua-Eric-Xu would June 26 - 29 work for you for the GMT course? This would mean releasing the video lectures the week before and hosting some office hours that week.

PaulWessel commented 1 year ago

I will look at my stuff as well and see what i can prerecord as well, Even if unsure about office hours

KristofKoch commented 1 year ago

Sorry I'm not available the whole week July 24-30 – preparing stuff is possible though.

Xiaohua-Eric-Xu commented 1 year ago

@maxrjones I am fine with the time.

Esteban82 commented 1 year ago

It's ok for me.

Esteban82 commented 1 year ago

Sorry I'm not available the whole week July 24-30 – preparing stuff is possible though.

July or june? In July will be the gmtsar course.

joa-quim commented 1 year ago

That time in June is OK for me but not so much for July . From: Federico Esteban @.> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2023 11:25 AM To: GenericMappingTools/gmt-for-geodesy @.> Cc: Joaquim Manuel Freire Luís @.>; Mention @.> Subject: Re: [GenericMappingTools/gmt-for-geodesy] 2023 GMT for Geodesy Short Course - Instructors discussion (Issue #33)

Sorry I'm not available the whole week July 24-30 – preparing stuff is possible though.

July or june? In July will be the gmtsar course.

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maxrjones commented 1 year ago

Sorry I'm not available the whole week July 24-30 – preparing stuff is possible though.

July or june? In July will be the gmtsar course.

Yes, the proposed days for GMT are in June, in advance of GMTSAR. @KristofKoch do you have any availability June 26 - 29?

KristofKoch commented 1 year ago

Oh, I mixed those dates up. I'm available 26-29 June. My apologies.

maxrjones commented 1 year ago

Thanks for all your input! I submitted an application with answers archived on HackMD. I'll share out when we hear back.

maxrjones commented 1 year ago

Melissa confirmed that we're on for the 2023 short course. The dates for four of the scheduled courses are below. Let's start planning the specific lectures and recordings next month (April). Thanks for all of your engagement on this - looking forward to working together! May 1-4: GNSS-IR June 26-29: GMT July 25-28:GMTSAR Sep 25-28: GNSS-PPP

KristofKoch commented 1 year ago

Let's start planning the specific lectures and recordings next month (April).

… any updates?

maxrjones commented 1 year ago

Apologies for the slow reply. Here's a timeline for the remainder of the preparation tasks: May 03 - Determine who will record which lectures May 05 - Open applications May 05 - Schedule office hours with instructors (I will send out a survey) May 22 - Close application May 26 - Finish applicant selection May 29 - Notify participants June 13- Upload recorded lectures to GMT google drive June 13-20 - Process lectures and post on EarthScope website June 20 - Share zoom and slack info with participants, offer help with installation June 27-29 - Office hours

The proposed lectures are:

  1. UNIX and bash introduction
  2. GMT Basics
  3. Symbols and lines
  4. Grids and mages
  5. Seismology
  6. Geodesy
  7. Animations

Optionally, we could record lectures on:

  1. PyGMT
  2. GMT.jl
  3. GMT/MEX

Does anyone have preferences as to which lecture they would like record? The content could be adjusted from last year's material for the new format.

Esteban82 commented 1 year ago

Great Max!

I would like to do 4. Grids and Images.

Xiaohua-Eric-Xu commented 1 year ago

Hi Max, I could do 6 as before.

PaulWessel commented 1 year ago

I think I can do 7 Animation as before.

KristofKoch commented 1 year ago

If you think I should give it a try I could do 3. Symbols and Lines.

PaulWessel commented 1 year ago

If you think I should give it a try I could do 3. Symbols and Lines.

That would be great I think

maxrjones commented 1 year ago

Thanks everyone! Please upload videos at https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1l_pf1sutmdcHvKl7cvbiJexX5qrniIir?usp=share_link by June 13; send me an email at maxjones@hawaii.edu if you need access. Here's the final list:

UNIX and bash introduction @maxrjones GMT Basics @joa-quim Symbols and lines - @KristofKoch Grids and images - @Esteban82 Seismology - @maxrjones Geodesy - @Xiaohua-Eric-Xu Animations - @PaulWessel

GMT.jl - @joa-quim PyGMT - @maxrjones (unless someone else wants to!) GMT/MEX - ?

joa-quim commented 1 year ago

Sure, I have to do something. That and the GMT.jl

maxrjones commented 1 year ago

Sure, I have to do something. That and the GMT.jl

Great, thanks! And thanks for the reminder about the wrappers. I've added those to the list. What do you and @PaulWessel think about GMT/MEX? Is it worth doing a recording for that too, or should we just focus on GMT.jl and PyGMT?

Xiaohua-Eric-Xu commented 1 year ago

Do we want to tag the current short course page (e.g., 2022) and then update it for this year? https://github.com/GenericMappingTools/gmt-for-geodesy

KristofKoch commented 1 year ago

I need some guidance from the experienced people here please:

Esteban82 commented 1 year ago

The most important thing is the audio. So use any mic as close as possible (instead of the one of the laptop).

maxrjones commented 1 year ago

Do we want to tag the current short course page (e.g., 2022) and then update it for this year? https://github.com/GenericMappingTools/gmt-for-geodesy

Good idea! I will do so tomorrow.

I need some guidance from the experienced people here please:

timeframe of presentation (20min?)

Last year Joaquim covered https://github.com/GenericMappingTools/gmt-for-geodesy/tree/main/3_line_symbols in ~45 minutes. I expect the timeframe for each will be a bit quicker for the recorded videos, given that there shouldn't be any video or audio issues. In general, 20 - 40 minutes for each of the sections seems ideal.

resolution of video (Full HD -> 1920x1080px?)

1080p would be great! 720p is the minimum that would work. Agreed that audio is important.

any kind of style template to be used for fonts/logos/appearance?

I recommend using one of the bundled themes (classic, modern, or minimal) rather than a custom conf.

Xiaohua-Eric-Xu commented 1 year ago

Hi @maxrjones, it seems that I could not access the Google Drive folder so I just uploaded it to Youtube https://youtu.be/-pJhIfpBkUg.

maxrjones commented 1 year ago

Hi @maxrjones, it seems that I could not access the Google Drive folder so I just uploaded it to Youtube https://youtu.be/-pJhIfpBkUg.

Thanks! I added your UT Austin email address to the permissions list. I'll need to send the video to Melissa to add to the EarthScope YouTube channel, so it would be easiest for me if you're able to also upload the original to the Google Drive.

maxrjones commented 1 year ago

@Xiaohua-Eric-Xu @Esteban82 @joa-quim @KristofKoch could you please fill out this survey so that we can schedule the office hours for students to ask questions?

https://www.when2meet.com/?20245579-lwlah

Xiaohua-Eric-Xu commented 1 year ago

@maxrjones Here's the link to the video https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cxPnf3do0_Ivk8BAuiqeXK_U74eC5PQl/view?usp=share_link. I still could not access the drive though it says that I am a visitor to the directory.

Esteban82 commented 1 year ago

We need to mark in the survey are the final ones and we want to be available during all of them, or if these are just some options and we will coordinate among ourselves to establish specific hours later?

maxrjones commented 1 year ago

We need to mark in the survey are the final ones and we want to be available during all of them, or if these are just some options and we will coordinate among ourselves to establish specific hours later?

You will not need to be available for all the hours that you've indicated. The survey is to establish the range of possible times and we'll narrow down specific windows from there. The total time commitment for each instructor will be 3 hours or less for the office hours component.

maxrjones commented 1 year ago

Thanks for your responses @KristofKoch @joa-quim @Esteban82 and @Xiaohua-Eric-Xu. Please reserve the following times for the office hours:

Who: Kristof, Federico, Joaquim, Max Topic: GMT Basics, Symbols and lines, Grids and images, Seismology

Who: Eric, Max Topic: Geodesy

We'll connect on Zoom and Slack, more info coming shortly

PaulWessel commented 1 year ago

Sorry that I am a bit behind on producing the animation podcast. One the Big Island with family on vacation so not ideal to record it. I will do this once back (~13 June) so it is done that week.

joa-quim commented 1 year ago

Don't spend 2 days in non-stop vacations. You get us worried.

maxrjones commented 1 year ago

No worries on the video timing.

@KristofKoch the EarthScope coordinator needs your email and affiliation for the Slack setup. Would send those to me at maxjones@hawaii.edu?

Esteban82 commented 1 year ago

For the video, which version of GMT should I use, 6.4 or Dev? I would use the Dev version, but I'm afraid it might include some features not included in 6.4.

maxrjones commented 1 year ago

For the video, which version of GMT should I use, 6.4 or Dev? I would use the Dev version, but I'm afraid it might include some features not included in 6.4.

Yes, for that reason GMT 6.4 would be best