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Minimum Information about any (X) Sequence” (MIxS) specification
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Change name of this organization to gensc #533

Closed ramonawalls closed 3 weeks ago

ramonawalls commented 1 year ago

Our organization name has always been spelled wrong (it should be "genomic" not "genomics". I have been unable to change it in the past, but perhaps we can get @folker to make the change now. While we are changing it, I would like to suggest that we change the org name to "gensc" to be consistent with our website and easier to type.

@lschriml @only1chunts do you have any objections to change our github org name to gensc?

lschriml commented 1 year ago

Ramona, you have admin permissions to make this change. gensc, is shorter, but then it is also not as clear what it stands for, in contrast to Genomic Standards Consortium. Groups/people looking for us, would not easily find us under gensc, I suspect. Folker has not been active with this work for awhile.

Cheers, Lynn

ramonawalls commented 1 year ago

Ah, now I remember the issue, which is that I actually did change the name, but the URL did not change. @cmungall or @turbomam or anyone else, do you know how I get the URL to change?

turbomam commented 1 year ago

Can we discuss this when we meet in 25 minutes?

I am taking some notes in #530

ramonawalls commented 1 year ago

I agree with @lschriml that making the org name genomicstandardsconsortium is a good idea. However, I still want to change the name of the organization to be spelled correctly. It is currently genomicsstandardsconsortium (with an extra s).

@lschriml Would it be better to use genomic_standards_consortium, so the spelling is more obvious to people who are not familiar with it?

NOTE: after the change, if someone tries to go to the org directly using the old org name, they will get a 404 error. If they go to a repository using the old URL, they will get redirected, and may not notice the change.

Before (or when ) we make the change, we need to do the following:

lschriml commented 1 year ago

Would it be better to use genomic_standards_consortium, so the spelling is more obvious to people who are not familiar with it? --> OK with me

On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 11:25 AM Ramona Walls @.***> wrote:

I agree with @lschriml https://github.com/lschriml that making the org name genomicstandardsconsortium is a good idea. However, I still want to change the name of the organization to be spelled correctly. It is currently genomicsstandardsconsortium (with an extra s).

@lschriml https://github.com/lschriml Would it be better to use genomic_standards_consortium, so the spelling is more obvious to people who are not familiar with it?

NOTE: after the change, if someone tries to go to the org directly using the old org name, they will get a 404 error. If they go to a repository using the old URL, they will get redirected, and may not notice the change.

Before (or when ) we make the change, we need to do the following:

  • Identify any links to the current organization or any repositories within it and update them (e.g., on our web site, in any documentation)
  • Fix the w3id redirects
  • Update the readme in each repo in the org to let people know that the org name has changed and that they should update their links
  • Send notification to all GSC stakeholders about the change. Make sure they know they need to update any github API calls about the organization or repos in it. (e.g., curl command). Make sure they know that @mentions of the old org name will no longer work.
  • TWG developers should budget time to addressing any problems that may come out of this. Make sure it is a standing item on the CIG and TWG calls for the next few months to follow up on it.

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lschriml commented 1 year ago

@Ramona Walls @.***> -- I updated the owners/managers to the GSC Github, to be only the GSC active board members

On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 11:25 AM Ramona Walls @.***> wrote:

I agree with @lschriml https://github.com/lschriml that making the org name genomicstandardsconsortium is a good idea. However, I still want to change the name of the organization to be spelled correctly. It is currently genomicsstandardsconsortium (with an extra s).

@lschriml https://github.com/lschriml Would it be better to use genomic_standards_consortium, so the spelling is more obvious to people who are not familiar with it?

NOTE: after the change, if someone tries to go to the org directly using the old org name, they will get a 404 error. If they go to a repository using the old URL, they will get redirected, and may not notice the change.

Before (or when ) we make the change, we need to do the following:

  • Identify any links to the current organization or any repositories within it and update them (e.g., on our web site, in any documentation)
  • Fix the w3id redirects
  • Update the readme in each repo in the org to let people know that the org name has changed and that they should update their links
  • Send notification to all GSC stakeholders about the change. Make sure they know they need to update any github API calls about the organization or repos in it. (e.g., curl command). Make sure they know that @mentions of the old org name will no longer work.
  • TWG developers should budget time to addressing any problems that may come out of this. Make sure it is a standing item on the CIG and TWG calls for the next few months to follow up on it.

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cmungall commented 1 year ago

I recommend against using underscores in org names or URLs in generals. It's pretty non-idiomatic for GitHub, goes against the google style guide, is hard to visually distinguish from spaces in URL bars, ...

On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 5:58 PM lschriml @.***> wrote:

Would it be better to use genomic_standards_consortium, so the spelling is more obvious to people who are not familiar with it? --> OK with me

On Mon, Feb 13, 2023 at 11:25 AM Ramona Walls @.***> wrote:

I agree with @lschriml https://github.com/lschriml that making the org name genomicstandardsconsortium is a good idea. However, I still want to change the name of the organization to be spelled correctly. It is currently genomicsstandardsconsortium (with an extra s).

@lschriml https://github.com/lschriml Would it be better to use genomic_standards_consortium, so the spelling is more obvious to people who are not familiar with it?

NOTE: after the change, if someone tries to go to the org directly using the old org name, they will get a 404 error. If they go to a repository using the old URL, they will get redirected, and may not notice the change.

Before (or when ) we make the change, we need to do the following:

  • Identify any links to the current organization or any repositories within it and update them (e.g., on our web site, in any documentation)
  • Fix the w3id redirects
  • Update the readme in each repo in the org to let people know that the org name has changed and that they should update their links
  • Send notification to all GSC stakeholders about the change. Make sure they know they need to update any github API calls about the organization or repos in it. (e.g., curl command). Make sure they know that @mentions of the old org name will no longer work.
  • TWG developers should budget time to addressing any problems that may come out of this. Make sure it is a standing item on the CIG and TWG calls for the next few months to follow up on it.

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ramonawalls commented 1 year ago

Following @cmungall 's advice, we should stick with the original plan of changing the name to genomicstandardsconsortium with no underscores.

ramonawalls commented 1 year ago

During the TWG call today, we discovered that the actual org name is GenomicsStandardsConsortium (camel case), but at some point during the last year, the w3id redirect was changed to use genomicsstandardconsortium (all lower case). See https://github.com/perma-id/w3id.org/blob/master/gensc/.htaccess. Nonetheless, the redirect still works, which suggests that either github or w3id is ignoring case. We need to investigate. Camel case is certainly easier to read.

ramonawalls commented 1 year ago

The org name change was approved during the TWG call today. It was also discussed during the quarterly GSC Board meeting, and there were no objections. Before we make the change, we need to do the following:

mslarae13 commented 1 month ago

@Woolly-at-EBI Can you chime in on bullet 2 above?

In summary for this issue, we have many places with Genomics Standards Consortium ... the genomics shouldn't be plural and it should be Genomic Standards Consortium. Is there anything you're aware of that will have implications if we change this?

mslarae13 commented 1 month ago

@ramonawalls

Give all stakeholders a two month notice about the change before we make it (as with a release).

So, can we change it in say v6.3 ... and then when we roll out v7 it'll be the official release? Or are you saying 2 months in a branch before it's even rolled out to 6.3?

lschriml commented 1 month ago

The only place this popped up was in the name of the GitHub repo.This ticket can be closed.Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 13, 2024, at 5:02 PM, Montana @.***> wrote: @Woolly-at-EBI Can you chime in on bullet 2 above? In summary for this issue, we have many places with Genomics Standards Consortium ... the genomics shouldn't be plural and it should be Genomic Standards Consortium. Is there anything you're aware of that will have implications if we change this?

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mslarae13 commented 1 month ago

Thanks @lschriml ! So, can we change the Repo to be correct?

lschriml commented 1 month ago

No need to rename the repo. It is fine as is.Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 13, 2024, at 5:06 PM, Montana @.***> wrote: Thanks @lschriml ! So, can we change the Repo to be correct?

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Woolly-at-EBI commented 1 month ago

Reach out to our partners (i.e. INSDC, NMDC, TDWG) to find out what they think will break and add it to the list. From the ENA (and I assume DDBJ and NCBI, I can't authoratively speak for them though) it will not break anything difficult to fix. We would have to update: 1) documentation(mainly read-the-doc) URLs that link to the relevant GSC pages 2) the URL in the script to pull down the files from GSC's Github

cmungall commented 1 month ago

What's the status of this issue?

As @ramonawalls noted in the first comment, there is an inconsistency between the github org ("GenomicsStandardsConsortium") and the actual name ("genomic standards consortium").

This is still the status, we have a confusing discrepancy, but the issue is now closed. Was there a meeting where it was decided that fixing this is no longer a priority? Should we not at least have some additional documentation somewhere explaining to our users that we have a discrepancy.

The CIG did a lot of great groundwork in planning out what an org rename would look like, in future it if we think things are fine as is it would be great to signal that ahead of time to avoid unnecessary work

ramonawalls commented 3 weeks ago

@cmungall There is no opposition to fixing the org name. I tried multiple times to change it but could never make it work. I'd be very grateful for advise on how to fix this issue.

lschriml commented 3 weeks ago

Hello @Ramona Walls @.***> If it is easy to fix the GitHub URL, sounds good. The GitHub name was fixed when we first found the issue, back to GenomicStandardsConsortium. I want to keep the name as genomicstandardsconsortium.

I am also fine keeping it as is, it is not hurting anything, having the extra 's' in the URL.

Cheers, Lynn

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@cmungall https://github.com/cmungall There is no opposition to fixing the org name. I tried multiple times to change it but could never make it work. I'd be very grateful for advise on how to fix this issue.

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cmungall commented 3 weeks ago

Anyone with the necessary permission can do it, see https://docs.github.com/en/organizations/managing-organization-settings/renaming-an-organization

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lschriml commented 3 weeks ago

Thank you Chris. I have the permissions and updated the group name when this first came up. I will close this issue, as I do not see any great benefit for changing the URL by one 's', and seeing the downside of broken links/updates for those already linking to the GitHub.

Cheers, Lynn

On Mon, Aug 19, 2024 at 11:01 AM Chris Mungall @.***> wrote:

Anyone with the necessary permission can do it, see

https://docs.github.com/en/organizations/managing-organization-settings/renaming-an-organization

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ramonawalls commented 3 weeks ago

@lschriml I have to disagree about it being a minor problem.It leads to a lot of confusion and sends a message to the outside world that we can't get our act together. I now regret that I gave up and closed this issue when I was not able to do what was needed. (@cmungall I'll check out the link you shared. I'm not sure why I couldn't make it work.). I agree that having "gensc" as the retository organization provides a much more consistent branding and makes it easier for newcomers to understand the structure of our online resources. The change was agreed upon by the TWG and CIG, and this issue was only closed because I could not figure out how to do it, not because we decided it was a bad choice.

In terms of broken links, I am not concerned. Github automatically redirects links to the new url. Also, there should a limited number of links to the repository from non-technical organizations (most of those will go to gensc.org), and technical organizations are equipped to handle a URL change.

@lschriml would you mind if I tried again to make the change?