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do we want to represent Grex? #260

Open mfrasca opened 7 years ago

mfrasca commented 7 years ago

ARTICLE 4: THE GREX

INTERNATIONAL CODE OF NOMENCLATURE FOR CULTIVATED PLANTS (ICNCP or Cultivated Plant Code) incorporating the Rules and Recommendations for naming plants in cultivation Eighth Edition

RoDuth commented 6 years ago

yes. Particularly for Orchids hybrids but also some other. E.g.

Paphiopedilum Jim Kie 'Springwater'

where Jim Kie is the grex name. See http://www.aos.org/orchids/additional-resources/basics-of-orchid-names.aspx

Paphiopedilum Jim Kie

would be all other members of this cross that are not clones of the 'Springwater' cultivar.

Paphiopedilum 'Springwater'

would not normally ever be used.

mfrasca commented 6 years ago

my understanding is that you give a cultivar name to a species, be it well defined from a taxonomic point of view or not. according to this logic, »Paphiopedilum sp. 'Springwater'« would be a viable option and I have programmed it so in 3.2. the ICNCP document gives several examples similar to Paphiopedilum 'Springwater' (e.g.: Pelargonium 'Freak of Nature'). it all looks very specialistic, and possibly only interesting for a garden doing propagations (¿@TatiJaramilloV?), and selling or at least participating to expositions. I was asking this question while still in Quito. I think we can leave this noted and resting, for the time being.

RoDuth commented 6 years ago

You obviously have not dealt with orchid hybrids before. It is specialised but in the same way that section and subsection is important to Rhododendron collectors grex is more important than cultivar to orchid collectors. Just google orchid naming conventions

mfrasca commented 6 years ago

noted and resting. I do not deal with plants, I deal with algorithms and data structures. when needed.

mfrasca commented 6 years ago

You obviously have not dealt with orchid hybrids before

you obviously make uninformed statements: I opened this issue precisely while in narrow contact with the JBQ, an institution using ghini precisely because of their orchid collection. the question "do we want to represent Grex" was directed to them.

RoDuth commented 6 years ago

and their response?

@tmyersdn do you have much to do with orchids? Maybe Cymbidium down there?

I've been mentioning grex for orchid names since 2015 https://github.com/Bauble/bauble.classic/issues/179#issuecomment-160507281 It's not something we have much use for so no big deal for me but I know its a must for every hybrid orchid grower I've ever dealt with. Just saying.

mfrasca commented 6 years ago

unfortunately, all their response is here in this very issue. I don't think I can develop something useful for users with whom I'm not in direct contact. the 2× two months in Quito were two important opportunities. I'm trying to build a next one. who knows we find someone interested in what you describe in https://github.com/Bauble/bauble.classic/issues/179#issuecomment-160507281