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Updated Swedish translation. #1944

Closed larspalo closed 3 months ago

larspalo commented 4 months ago

Just an update of the Swedish .po file for translation.

oleg68 commented 4 months ago

@larspalo I'm approving this PR, but unfortunatelly I cannot check the translation.

larspalo commented 4 months ago

@jason-barba I've updated the Swedish translation of GrandOrgue that you perhaps could check both here (the actual sv.po file) and in the intermediate build at https://github.com/larspalo/grandorgue/actions/runs/9943350137. If you have any thoughts, ideas or objections, feel free to share them.

jason-barba commented 4 months ago

Will do. Might take some days ...

jason-barba commented 4 months ago

@larspalo I am now back at home so I can take a look at the Swedish translation. Q: Do I have to download the build to perform your request? (In this matter I am as newbie as @obw-go )

larspalo commented 4 months ago

@jason-barba To view only the changed strings you can just click on the "Files Changed" tab at the top (where you have "Conversation" to the far left). If you want to view the strings in context of a running version of GrandOrgue you'll need to download a suitable build from https://github.com/larspalo/grandorgue/actions/runs/9943350137 and run it.

jason-barba commented 4 months ago

What is the purpose/function om the ampersand in för example Ne&d?

larspalo commented 4 months ago

What is the purpose/function om the ampersand in för example Ne&d?

It's a menu mnemonic.

jason-barba commented 4 months ago

Ah! So the d in Ned should comply with din Down.

jason-barba commented 4 months ago

BTW how do you want my comments?

larspalo commented 4 months ago

@jason-barba You could just leave them in a message here.

jason-barba commented 4 months ago

@larspalo You will find my comments inline in the attached PDF. Updated Swedish translation. by larspalo · Pull Request #1944 · GrandOrgue_grandorgue.pdf Hope they will be of some use ;-)

I have not tried out the build, som there might be some missunderstandings from my side.

I find it troublesome to translate the short and distinct English words/sentences to Swedish because 1. we often use the English word in the Swedish context (Swenglish) and 2. a direct translation word for word may not yield a correct meaning in Swedish, sometimes very much on the contrary. I learned a lot when I was co-authoring a Swedish textbook in data communication.

larspalo commented 4 months ago

I find it troublesome to translate the short and distinct English words/sentences to Swedish because 1. we often use the English word in the Swedish context (Swenglish) and 2. a direct translation word for word may not yield a correct meaning in Swedish, sometimes very much on the contrary.

Indeed, that's exactly why I didn't translate a lot of the MIDI messages. Some of the technical terms doesn't make sense to translate as we use the english word as a "borrowed" word anyway.

larspalo commented 4 months ago

@jason-barba The word "loop" is one of the terms I'm hesitant to change, both because it's technical term but also an accepted term in Swedish.

jason-barba commented 4 months ago

I can agree, but still dispute ;-) It's all about who is the intended audience and in what context the text will be used. I can argue that if the audience is technically aware Swenglish could be used; it is in my mind beeing a technician clearer than Swedish translations. But for the uninformed, a good(?) Swedish translation might lead the reader into some understanding. In body text (sv. brödtext) or running text (sv. löpande text) I find writing both the English and the Swedish words as in this example. But for message strings I would say this is not possible or creates confusion.

IMHO ;-)

larspalo commented 4 months ago

I can agree, but still dispute

Sure. In the case of the word "loop" it's however a Swedish word according to SAOL and since anyone with at least the slightest knowledge of an audio sample will understand what a loop is in that context I think I'll leave all such words as they are.

I also see some of your comments are about presently un-used strings. I won't change any of them right now.

I'll change all "sampling" related words to "sampel" except for resampling - "Omsampling".

jason-barba commented 4 months ago

Good! Glad to be able to contribute to the project :-)

larspalo commented 4 months ago

@jason-barba Thanks for your feedback. I've done some pretty extensive updating of the Swedish translation trying to be consistent and taking your suggestions into account. I suggest that you please try an intermediate build from https://github.com/larspalo/grandorgue/actions/runs/10150498087 (some of them can actually be tested without any actual installation, just download for instance https://github.com/larspalo/grandorgue/actions/runs/10150498087/artifacts/1752444517 and unpack it somewhere and run the binary in the /bin directory where you've unpacked it) so that you may see the strings (and choice of mnemonics) in context.

jason-barba commented 3 months ago

Just a quick look, but looks good. One thing thou, shouldn't "Arkiv/Settings .." be "Arkiv/Inställningar..."?

larspalo commented 3 months ago

@jason-barba (File->)Settings is one of the strings that cannot be translated.

oleg68 commented 3 months ago

@jason-barba @larspalo have you finished or you still continue working?

larspalo commented 3 months ago

@oleg68 It's ready. But in some sense, the translation is never finished as things in the source will change and the user feedback might give reason to adapt the translation to be more relevant.

oleg68 commented 3 months ago

@rousseldenis could you approve this pr?

oleg68 commented 3 months ago

@rousseldenis Parce que in n'ya plus de travaux ici, je pense que il est miex de fusionner ce PR. Pourriez-vous approve ca? Merci.