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Engaging with external bodies and campaigns, commenting on existing or proposed policy related to green software as well as creating our own policy proposals.
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2024 10 15 #101

Closed seanmcilroy29 closed 2 weeks ago

seanmcilroy29 commented 1 month ago

2024 10 15

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Standards adoption - specifically the SCI

How does a software tester or an auditor provide a degree of assurance for a SCI score? If a Impact framework manifest file can’t be shared, what process do we need to provide assurances for them, like we do with other ISO standards?

Procurement -

What does requesting SCI scores at a suitable level of detail / transparency look like?

Datacenter Policy

If we accept that grid intensity and hardware are key drivers of the SCI scores, what policy do we need to encourage support for new datacentres to make achieving high scores possible?

Training and syllabus design

The BCS training materials inform career progression in a number of orgs in the UK. What would including measurement of thing like SCI look like for specific special interest groups, like AI, datacenter managers etc

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mrchrisadams commented 1 month ago

Attended

alexnorwich commented 1 month ago

Attended

mspenharc commented 1 month ago

Attended

lisamcnally commented 1 month ago

Attended

lisamcnally commented 1 month ago

For our next meeting, let's discuss engagement opportunities with our MOU partner(s) for 2025: Similar to today's agenda which includes talking with Alex on ways to collaborate with BCS, should we discuss if we want to re-engage SustainableIT.org and discuss if there are workshops that we would want to partner with them on?

seanmcilroy29 commented 1 month ago

MoM

Meeting Summary Notes The meeting focused on coordinating efforts between the British Computer Society (BCS) and the Green Software Foundation (GSF) on policy overlaps. Key points included adopting the ISO-approved Software Carbon Intensity (SCI) score, procurement standards, data centre policies, and training syllabi. Challenges discussed were the lack of a benchmarking library for SCI scores and the need for consistent standards across regions. The group emphasized forming specialized subgroups to address these issues and leveraging existing work, such as the German Blau Engel standard. The next meeting is scheduled for October 29th.

Minutes

Policy Overlaps and Scope of the Working Group Michaela asks about the scope of the working group and its goals. Chris explains the scope of the policy working group, focusing on engaging with other organizations and adopting green software standards. Chris mentions the need for rigour in green software audits and the potential for ISO standards. Chris Adams discusses the importance of understanding the goals and scope of the working group for new members.

Report Back on Policy Overlaps and Next Steps Chris reports on the discussion with Alex about policy overlaps between the British Computer Society and the Green Software Foundation. Critical areas of overlap include the adoption of standards, procurement, data centre policy, and training and syllabus design. Alex mentions the need to present the SCI concept to software development groups for feedback. Chris and Alex discuss the importance of understanding the relationship between data centre carbon intensity, server carbon intensity, and software running on top.

Feedback and Reflections on Policy Overlaps Lisa McNally shares insights from the field, emphasizing the need for a library or repository to compare SCI scores. Chris Adams and Lisa McNally discuss the challenges of benchmarking SCI scores and the need for a standardized approach. Michaela raises concerns about grid reliability and the importance of transparency in data centre operations. Chris Adams mentions examples of companies providing AI data centre services with high transparency and flexibility.

Planning for Future Work and Specialist Groups Alex suggests forming specialist groups to address the discussed areas of overlap. Chris agrees and mentions the need to involve Sean and other staff for support. Chris outlines the next steps, summarizing and discussing key points in future meetings. Chris confirmed the next meeting date and time, and the meeting concluded with a few minutes to spare.

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