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[Question] Design considerations for SCER spec/label #90

Open chrisxie-fw opened 3 weeks ago

chrisxie-fw commented 3 weeks ago

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Here, I'm taking the liberty to share some of the key design principles of the SCER spec that I 've personally been trying to follow:

EnergyStar

This is where the original SCER spec leaves room for flexibility to cater for different needs, because some may prefer SCI, CO2ge,SCC, or other measurement units. For example, huggingface uses Energy (tokens/kWh), which could correlate to carbon efficiency because they use their own internal uniform testing/benchmarking environment.

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jawache commented 2 weeks ago

@chrisxie-fw

Regarding verification, this is being explored heavily with impact framework. The most obvious way to verify is to just be fully transparent with all your data, that way it's trivial for the end user to be able to check. But we're also exploring ways to cryptography sign a manifest file so trusted 3rd parties can verify deeper. We should leverage the work being done there, as long as the evidence is a manifest file - the tools, technologies and agreements are already being explored and researched by other people.

I think we should make a business case white paper, we can even launch a workshop and invite members to participate.

However, In addition to that, I firmly believe for this label to be a success there needs to be a business around the label. I.e. lots of people need to be making a living creating a SCER label.

chrisxie-fw commented 2 weeks ago

I agree there needs to be a strong business case for companies to adopt the SCER label. At the minimum, when companies adopting the SCER label, the Label adds more trust and credibility of environmental consciousness to the company's products and services.

adityamanglik commented 1 week ago

I agree with Chris's design principles for the SCER spec. Here's my perspective on some of his questions:

  1. Business Value
  1. Ease of Use
  1. End-User Segmentation
  1. Label Generation and Tools