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A specification that describes how to calculate a carbon intensity for software applications.
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Question re: location-based marginal emissions #258

Closed abeggchr closed 2 years ago

abeggchr commented 2 years ago

The specification regarding location-based marginal carbon emissions states:

_Location-based measures the grid carbon intensity of a regional balancing authority. From a developer perspective, only the location-based info is important for having an impact on reducing carbon emissions. This excludes market-based measures, and is distinct from 100% renewable energy claims.

The only figure that matters if you’re trying to optimize the scheduling of your compute in real-time is the marginal emissions intensity. This is the emissions intensity of the marginal power plant which will be turned up if you schedule some compute (e.g. increase electricity demand from the grid) at that moment._

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atg-abhishek commented 2 years ago

Adam: lot of contextual measures in the SCI, so not sure yet on how to incorporate this / if it should be incorporated Srini: MBM includes neutralizations and offsets, Adam: we don't want to give specific guidance because that is going to be contextual Henry: the intent to exclude market-based measures was also that we want to be consequential and make sure that we focus on things that the developer can control / if you change your software, would it reduce the carbon? Tammy: if you run your app on the DC that is buying renewable energy / market-based

Henry-WattTime commented 2 years ago

As the SCI is currently drafted, market based measures like EACs, RECs, offsets, PPAs, etc are excluded from the calculation. The specification attempts to assess the emissions caused by running that software, making the marginal emissions rate in that region relevant. SCI promotes creating energy efficient applications, targeted for practitioners, hence market-based strategies are excluded at this point. In the Microsoft example, you should use the regional emissions factor, not zero.

This may be a topic if conversation in future versions of the spec.

atg-abhishek commented 2 years ago

Adam: what guidance can we give to people who are looking to pick a vendor?

atg-abhishek commented 2 years ago

Henry: we should have a guide for choosing a vendor