2024.02.29

[seanmcilroy29]

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2024.02.29 Agenda/Minutes

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• Co-Chair - Henry Richards (WattTime)
• Co-Chair - Naveen Balani - (Accenture)
• Co-Chair – Abhishek Gupta (BCG)
• Convener – Sean Mcilroy (Linux Foundation)

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Agenda

• [x] Approve agenda
• [x] Approve previous Meeting Minutes

Use case Submission Review

• CAST - SCI to measure the improvement in CO2 emissions when decarbonizing software

GreenAI - Discussion Continued - Henry / Thomas

• [x] Green AI project briefing, which includes:
• Executive Summary
• Design Principles
• Description of the Three Tenets
• Links to Discussions
• Next Steps Green AI Project Proposal Early Brief.pdf

WG Project - Dashboard

Project Review updates

• [x] Transforming Organisational Software Sustainability - Pindy

  • Project to be aligned with;
    • Maturity Matrix with the project.
    • Rubric project donated by Indeed

• [x] Software Carbon Efficiency Rating - Chris

  • Baseline Spec
  • Spec Development Proposal and Focus Areas

    SCER Working Group (WG) is exploring the use case for SCER standard for LLM (Large Language Models) in generative AI.

Project Updates

• [x] SCI
  • New SCI webpage - https://sci.greensoftware.foundation/
• [x] Real-Time Cloud - Adrian
  • the project has agreed to define the headers from the GSF Real-Time Cloud Renewable Energy Percentage spreadsheet.
  • collaboration documentt to create the initial header explanations.
• [x] sci-guide - Navveen

ISO - Sean

• [x] ISO placeholder now available, before its publication- https://www.iso.org/standard/86612.html

  Final draft now in publication after being signed off

Article R&A peer review

• [x] Nothing submitted for review

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• [x] If you have any Agenda submissions, please let Sean know via email sean@greensoftware.foundation or open an Issue

Next Meeting

• [x] 14th Mar

Adjourn

• [ ] Motion to adjourn

Meeting Action Items / Standing Agenda / Future Agenda submissions

• [ ] Standing Agenda Item - First meeting of each month - Member Introductions / Buddy-buddy meeting to help new members understand the work in the SWG.
• [ ] Standing Agenda Item - First meeting of each month - 5 - 10 min round up of what is happening across the other WG

[tholewis]

Hey folks, I didn't want to edit the agenda and mess it up and also we are having unusual weather, so I thought I'd provide a quick link to the Green AI Project document entry I made at https://github.com/Green-Software-Foundation/gaic/issues/6 just in case the weather gets worse.

The first comment links to the document I mentioned last meeting I would create for this meeting that provides an overview of the project. It not an end-to-end project plan but provides greater detail that we can share with others, provides some scope, and it will continue to be iterated on.

I also added a comment for the next steps to discuss at this meeting if folks are interested as well. Look forward to talking to folks about it! 🌳

[marcoshidalgonunes-avanade]

Attended

[GadhuNTTDATA]

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[Henry-WattTime]

Attended

[tholewis]

Attended! 🌳

[kapokasa]

Attended

[seanmcilroy29]

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[navveenb]

attended

[tmcclell]

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[mvaltas-tw]

attended

[seanmcilroy29]

MoM Creating a new project proposal for a sustainability initiative. Thomas suggests using a RACI model to clarify responsibilities and enhance communication among team members. Henry inquires about an update on the three tenets of billing and resources, to which Thomas responds that John has finished the document but still needs to confirm availability. Thomas is scheduling a call for the core team to discuss the three tenets of the project and invites others to join. Sean volunteers to create a Zoom link and send it to attendees and also recommends using an existing repository for the project.

AI position summary and resource allocation. Thomas and Henry discussed the AI project plan. Thomas proposed using the document they had as an update for the community working group and policy group at their next meeting. Henry agreed and suggested that some conversations with the policy folks could run concurrently. They also discussed the involvement of AI experts in the process. Thomas suggested bringing in AI experts once the team had a clear direction and outline rather than at the beginning of the project. He also recommended using small language models as a more carbon-intensive solution for AI projects, citing technical credibility as a priority. Henry suggested writing a document to outline the subject areas or paragraphs for the experts to react to, prioritise tasks, and focus on smaller, more agile projects.

• Green AI Project document
• Green AI Discussion
• Next Steps

Action Items

• [ ] Members - Review the Green AI principles document before next Thursday's meeting
• [ ] Create a shortened brief version of the green AI principles document and include it in the following newsletter
• [ ] Ping Urs to see if he has completed the article on billing principles
• [ ] Thomas - Add the Green AI core team meeting to the calendar and distribute the Zoom link