2023.09.14

[seanmcilroy29]

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2023.09.14 Agenda/Minutes

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• Co-Chair - Henry Richards (WattTime)
• Co-Chair - Naveen Balani - (Accenture)
• Co-Chair – Abhishek Gupta (BCG)
• Convener – Sean Mcilroy (Linux Foundation)

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Agenda

• [x] Approve agenda

  No objections - Agenda agreed

• [x] Approve previous Meeting Minutes

  No objections - Mintues agreed

Project Proposal - Software Emission Benchmark

• [x] #77

  Pindy on holiday, Project Proposal will be review at a later date

Project Rollout Review

• [x] Software Carbon Efficiency Rating (SCER) Marco Valtas - Chair & Project lead
  • GitHub repository - https://github.com/Green-Software-Foundation/scer
  • Email distribution list - scer@greensoftware.foundation
  • [x] Call for project co-chair
  • [x] Call for members to collaborate on the project
  • [x] Schedule Kickoff meeting will be at the start of Oct, when Marco returns from Sabbatical

Marco reviewed the project and made a request for members to join his project.

WG Project updates

• [x] Real-Time Cloud

• [x] Pindy has agreed to co-chair this project

  Adrian unavailable to offer an update

• [x] sci-guide

  Navveen/Srini unavailable to offer an update

Operational and embodied carbon is mathematically incompatible

• [x] https://github.com/orgs/Green-Software-Foundation/discussions/56

  Comments added to Issue.

AI Impact on Immersions

• [x] WG request to discuss the AI impact and its SCI implications
• [x] Blog Draft

  Comments added to Issue

Pull Request

• [x] None submitted

Case Study Update Review

• [x] Any updates to the current use cases
• [x] Call for case study submissions. Support & resources are available to all GSF members

Article R&A peer review

• [x] Pindy is in the process of writing up the UBS use-case submission that will form the basis of the article.

  Pindy currently on holiday and will offer an update on her return

Note: WG use case template submission - After submitting this issue, your use case will be submitted to the WG Agenda for discussion. Article submission - Once you submit this issue, it will be assigned to the GSF Editor to review.

ISO submission - Current status

• [x] Spec submitted to ISO

  No updates

Weekly GSF Newsletter submissions

• [x] Software Carbon Efficiency Rating (SCER) submitted and is in the process of having an article drafted Note: Newsletter submission requests to namrata@greensoftware.foundation

AOB

• [x] Member submissions

Next meeting Agenda submissions

• [x] IEF Demo - https://github.com/Green-Software-Foundation/ief
• [x] If you have any Agenda submissions, please let Sean know via email sean@greensoftware.foundation or open an Issue

Next Meeting

• [x] 21st Sept

  Agreed

Adjourn

• [x] Motion to adjourn

  No objections - meeting closed

Meeting Action Items / Standing Agenda / Future Agenda submissions

• [ ] Standing Agenda Item - First meeting of each month - Member Introductions
• [ ] Standing Agenda Item - First meeting of each month - 5 - 10 min round up of what is happening across the other WG
• [ ] 1st meeting in Aug add - https://github.com/Green-Software-Foundation/software_carbon_intensity/discussions/348

  @Chris Xie (Huawei), are any updates or support required for this proposed project?

[tholewis]

Attended.

[mvaltas]

Attended

[Henry-WattTime]

Attended

[tmcclell]

Attended

[seanmcilroy29]

Attended

[ciril-emaps]

attended

[marcoshidalgonunes]

Attended

[Henry-WattTime]

Discussion of #56

Ciril: Two main benefits, optimize for either, can optimize for either. Also aligns with reporting standards better Worth exploring Combined metrics always carry this risk

Henry: Doesn't allow for co-optimizing or prioritization between metrics

Marco: 'Mathematically incompatible' is a strong statement, how to understand this? SCI is currently trying to weight, to score both, more than reporting, underlining to take both into account when making decisions What is the end goal of the tool? Help you to optimize? or to report? Puts pressure on tool for one thing, and not the other

Ben Logan: Like the separation, different roles and responsibilities Have lots of control over different parts Sometimes researchers downplay the importance of operational emissions (worth checking)

Marco: propose their own tools, worth looking into What the end goal? Operational vs. embodied can be questioned in other industries as well. For example

Henry: Score is already separated, can be further divided? SCI = O + M / R

[kapokasa]

Attended

[seanmcilroy29]

Approved