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4/2/2018 Update #20

Open Alexvt15 opened 6 years ago

Alexvt15 commented 6 years ago

Here is an example of a gradient map we created that shows the percent difference in the 7Q10 flow metric between the USGS calibration gage and the model output. difference7q10

alyssaf4 commented 6 years ago

I have also started creating box plots for our flow metrics. I am still working on the alf one and the September drought of warning one.

7q10 boxplot

sep10 boxplot

Alexvt15 commented 6 years ago

This gradient map shows the percent difference in the ALF flow metric between the USGS calibration gage and the model output. image

This gradient map shows the percent difference in the DOR flow metric between the USGS calibration gage and the model output. image

This gradient map shows the percent difference in the September 10% flow metric between the USGS calibration gage and the model output. image

Alexvt15 commented 6 years ago

The DOR map came out wrong, here is the correct map: image

jdkleiner commented 6 years ago

Thanks guys - overall these %differences are a bit higher than I was expecting (or hoping). I want to be sure that we're area weighting in all cases prior to performing these calculations. (the only time we won't be area weighting is if the usgs gage happens to exactly coincide with the model segment outlet, or is pretty darn close)

To quote Rob from an earlier email: "Regardless of the drainage area difference (whether 5% or 50%), we will want to area weight the data to try our best to compare apples to apples."

rburghol commented 6 years ago

Thanks folks — great progress. I concur with Joey’s assessment — this is part of making sure that we add table data to these describing drainage area of both gage and segments, and adjustmeny factors used.

I like the % difference map approach, though perhaps you can show a warm-to-cool type spectrum expressing negative and positive differences. Might be in addition to the absolute value of difference or instead of depending on what we think we need to tell people about.

Thanks again, rb

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 3:49 PM Joey Kleiner notifications@github.com wrote:

Thanks guys - overall these %differences are a bit higher than I was expecting (or hoping). I want to be sure that we're area weighting in all cases prior to performing these calculations. (the only time we won't be area weighting is if the usgs gage happens to exactly coincide with the model segment outlet, or is pretty darn close)

To quote Rob from an earlier email: "Regardless of the drainage area difference (whether 5% or 50%), we will want to area weight the data to try our best to compare apples to apples."

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Alexvt15 commented 6 years ago

Here are the same maps but with the warm to cool spectrum without absolute values:

7Q10 Percent Difference: image

ALF Percent Difference: image

DOR Percent Difference: image

Percent Difference September 10%: image

rburghol commented 6 years ago

Thanks -- looks good -- well, the % changes don't look so good but...

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Here are the same maps but with the warm to cool spectrum without absolute values:

7Q10 Percent Difference: [image: image] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/32133622/38265227-33a091e0-3743-11e8-815d-a205f692800b.png

ALF Percent Difference: [image: image] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/32133622/38265380-b4338164-3743-11e8-97e8-5f3d490a5838.png

DOR Percent Difference: [image: image] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/32133622/38265484-0f838852-3744-11e8-952e-23ab597298e2.png

Percent Difference September 10%: [image: image] https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/32133622/38265604-62e0edbe-3744-11e8-8e3a-b99120c54703.png

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alyssaf4 commented 6 years ago

Rob and Joey, I am not really sure what you mean by area weight the data. If you could explain what that is, then Alex and I could work on getting that done by Friday.

rburghol commented 6 years ago

Ahh ok. So, say you have a watershed model with total drainage area of 100 sqmi, and a USGS gage with a drainage area of 105 sqmi. In order to compare flow stats for them you would multiply each days outflow in your model time-series by 1.05 to adjust for (weight) the differences in order to compare accurately. Make sense?

The second part, will be providing us (the reviewing public) with the information needed to make us comfortable that you have gotten all your ducks in a row as it were. Drainage area values, watershed maps, flow values and weighting factors, and then of course hydrographs and/or duration curves, and shorter duration plots (like weeks, months and/or years) to further demonstrate the fidelity (or infidelity) of your model.

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Rob and Joey, I am not really sure what you mean by area weight the data. If you could explain what that is, then Alex and I could work on getting that done by Friday.

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alyssaf4 commented 6 years ago

So if the gage drainage area is larger than the model drainage area, I am going to multiply the model time series by 1+% error. If the model drainage area is larger than the gage drainage area, do you want me to multiply the gage time series by 1+%error or divide the model time series by 1+%error?

rburghol commented 6 years ago

Lets make our convention be to always scale the model to the gage — lets not call this error, as it is simply different areas resulting from choices or datasets used for drainage delineation — it is simply difference. Unless we think someone has indeed made an error or course. :)

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So if the gage drainage area is larger than the model drainage area, I am going to multiply the model time series by 1+% error. If the model drainage area is larger than the gage drainage area, do you want me to multiply the gage time series by 1+%error or divide the model time series by 1+%error?

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