Abandoned.

[warrickbayman]

Quiver has been abandoned by @ylian. It's a pity because there really isn't anything that works in quite the same way. And since it's a paid-for app, this is even more frustrating. If anyone finds anything that is similar, I'd love to know. I'm using Notion at the moment, but it's not really the same thing.

[azu]

I'm using Inkdrop instead of Quiver. My major issues of quiver were mobile supporing and customizing by a plugin.

Migration tool: pi-chan/import-quiver

[xncbot]

Joplin deserve a try. Open source, free, sync options, markdown.

On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 1:27 PM azu @.***> wrote:

I've used Inkdrop https://www.inkdrop.app/ instead of Quiver. My major issues of quiver were mobile supporing and customizing by plugin.

Migration tool: pi-chan/import-quiver https://github.com/pi-chan/import-quiver

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[warrickbayman]

I'm using Inkdrop instead of Quiver. My major issues of quiver were mobile supporing and customizing by a plugin.

Migration tool: pi-chan/import-quiver

Thanks for this. I somehow missed Inkdrop completely. Seems great so far.

[warrickbayman]

@xncbot I tried Joplin. It's not bad, but I just wasn't hooked. But I'll give it another go. Thanks.

[warrickbayman]

If all you want is a Markdown editor, then MacDown is very good. It's simplistic and doesn't have close to the feature set of Quiver, but I find it does Markdown really well. And open source.

[runrunrirun]

Second Joplin, it's actively developed, has a mobile client and encryption It's not a native app, so not as lightweight as Quiver.

However... the main dev is trying to spin up a commercial business hosting Joplin... and we know how that ends. But at least it's fully open source, so a fork could be maintained.

[floq-design]

Another couple to consider - although not like Quiver - more like 'standard' markdown editors are: https://fsnot.es/ https://www.mweb.im/

[yuxiao-qin]

If you check ylian's github page you will find out that quiver is NOT abandoned and ylian has been constantly working on it at all time. ylian mentioned in the pinned post that there are a lot of rough edges to shape up and challenges to tackle. Let's give ylian some faith and time for it.

[floq-design]

Perhaps @ylian himself would like to comment on the current status?

[macdevign]

Yes, I believe that the developer is working hard on next version. Been a developer myself, I can understand sometimes a project can feel like labour of love and thus willing to spend time and life working on it. I just keep faith that one day he is able to deliver it, I yet to find alternative like Quiver, and there is a genius in using json as storage with well-designed structure for note-taking desktop app, because if one know how to harness that data format, they can do amazing stuff with it.

[iskandr]

I was considering buying Quiver as an alternative to the now unusuable Evernote. The features seem nice but @ylian's lack of response makes me concerned about future support bug-fixes. I guess I'll wait until there's some official comment on the future of the project.

[macdevign]

iskandr , yes , I think you should wait till next version . Even though this version is usable, there still area I thought could be improved (eg better search, warning before convert html cell to text cell wise losing formatting and image, table support in html, show Note title in window title)

[SandMouse]

I'm using Inkdrop instead of Quiver. My major issues of quiver were mobile supporing and customizing by a plugin.

Migration tool: pi-chan/import-quiver

Thank you for mentioning InkDrop.

[ijoseph]

InkDrop would almost work although the security is a non-starter for me. Either one uses their servers to sync data, trusting their encryption does as it says, or one has to set up one’s own CouchDB server, which probably is more risky than trusting their servers due to having to do maintenance and risk of misconfiguration.

[roobinmason]

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I transfered my notes from quiver to Joplin about a year ago (still waiting for quiver's new version), but joplin has bug in searching. It misses some content when I search. Searching is the most important to me as a programmer. So I am still looking and waiting.

[WLyKan]

maybe open source is the answer. free for basics use，pay for advanced futures.

[cupdike]

If you check ylian's github page you will find out that quiver is NOT abandoned and ylian has been constantly working on it at all time.

@yuxiao-qin Uh, not really. He has been working all the time but NOT on Quiver. Quiver is closed source and this github repo is only for issue tracking. So you wouldn't see it here anyway.

In fact, the Quiver project doesn't even show up on his list of repositories: https://github.com/ylian?tab=repositories

His last comment on an issue was 2019: https://github.com/HappenApps/Quiver/issues?q=commenter%3Aylian

Face the facts, Quiver is an abandoned project. And if you have a lot of carefully curated hierarchical tagged notes with embedded images, you are, potentially, one MacOS update away from your valuable offline brain vaporizing into the aether.

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If anyone knows of a reliable way get a large hierarchical Quiver library imported into another tool, please share. I've tried a couple options and nothing has worked for this situation.

BTW I have used Joplin (open source) but I haven't scaled it up to a large body of notes.

[inspiredearth]

Quiver has been abandoned by @ylian. It's a pity because there really isn't anything that works in quite the same way. And since it's a paid-for app, this is even more frustrating. If anyone finds anything that is similar, I'd love to know. I'm using Notion at the moment, but it's not really the same thing.

Until now, I’m still using Quiver, although not without hesitation. Not that it’s stopped working. To date (20240531) it still works perfectly on latest macOS, including on Silicon devices.

However, today I tried out SnippetsLab, which I get access to through my Setapp license. I noticed it has an importer for Quiver. So I tested it out.

Everything imported perfectly, as far as i can tell. Only “glitch” was that it didn’t maintain the Notebook hierarchy (sub-notebooks under parent notebooks). Notebooks get converted to Folders in SnippetsLab. And after the import there was a flat structure of folders. So I had to spend some minutes (perhaps 20 in my case) reorganising all the folders into sub-folders where needed. It was a drag-and-drop process, so relatively painless.

The big difference I see to Quiver, is that notes are in one particular coding language. Notes imported from Quiver are in Markdown. And they are edited that way. You can preview the final output (which looks identical to the content when viewed in Quiver), but you can’t edit them in the in WYSIWYG, like you do in Quiver.

I prefer the way Quiver simply displays the final render, meaning it’s essentially rich text editor, with special features (cells, with their own formatting) for making it great for coding. I don’t want to be creating and editing my snippets and extensive notes, etc., purely in MD. There are hundred of other excellent note taking apps I can do that with.

To me this is where Quiver really shines. The way it utilises cells, allow for rich text notes, and the embedding of code blocks, markdown blocks, latex blocs (aka “cells” in Quiver) within those notes. I am still looking for a Quivery replacement that can do that ... for that inevitable day when Quiver stops working.

Other than these two points, I think it’s an excellent replacement for Quiver users.

The other thing I don’t like about SnippetsLab, which I also don’t like about Quiver, is that it’s storing my data in a propriatory datafile. However, it goes at least allow me to export it, as does Quiver. Although the export has a limited range of formats ...

I would like to be able to export my notes as Markdown, since that’s what all the notes I imported from Quiver are stored as.

[inspiredearth]

Adding another update here ... in case someone in my / our position stumbles upon this thread.

Another great alternative to Quiver (to migrate to) is Obsidian.

The trick is getting the data out of Quiver in MD, whilst maintaining your folder/notebook tree structure.

For that I used this node package. It worked perfectly.

As you’re likely a code, I’m going to guess you already have nvm and npm installed. So you should be good to go, with regards to the export of your data from your Quiver datafile.

Once in Obsidian, you’ll have the same folder structure. The tags are also migrated over.

I don’t use the Latex and Diagram Cells in Quiver, so I have no idea how they port over. But I’m pretty sure Obsidian has plug-ins for handling Latex. So that at least should be fine. The notes (which become Markdown) are fine. And the Code cells are using Markdown code blocks, with the appropriate language (syntax highlighting).

I’ve found Bear.app, BoostNote app, and Notion.app also work well enough. I’m not into the subscription Bear and BoostNote requires. So that’s a “no” from me. Notion free version is sufficient. But I was unable to find any way to import my quiver content into Notion. So that too is a “no” from me. With Obsidian, it was a simple and effective process to migrate.