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how about integrating haxe.io as news/blog #39

Closed frabbit closed 7 years ago

frabbit commented 10 years ago

that would be great ;)

Simn commented 10 years ago

Agreed!

frabbit commented 10 years ago

@skial what do think?

skial commented 10 years ago

How would you guys see it being integrated? Ages ago it used to be a collection of rss/atom feeds.

I still need to pull my finger out and get my atom and rss feeds working correctly :|

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@skial https://github.com/skial what do think?

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frabbit commented 10 years ago

how about adding haxe.io as a submodule? does it only consist of static files? You could also join forces and merge the repos? Maybe @jasononeil has an idea?

skial commented 10 years ago

Yeah, all posts are pure markdown files and I have a library called tuli which loads plugins which register what files they are interested in so they can process them as they like and at different points.

So yes the markdown can be used as you guys like, attribution would be appreciated ;)

I do plan on having haxe.io publish tutorials but it's currently still a plan :/ On 28 May 2014 15:47, "frabbit" notifications@github.com wrote:

how about adding haxe.io as a submodule? does it only consist of static files? You could also join forces and merge the repos? Maybe @jasononeilhttps://github.com/jasononeilhas an idea?

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Simn commented 10 years ago

I would love to see this being properly integrated into the official site as a "News" section. These hand-crafted roundups are quality content which would be really unique.

Of course we can leave everything as it is on the technical side if you prefer. We could also introduce HaxeFoundation/news to give this a bit of an official vibe, but that's not mandatory.

jasononeil commented 10 years ago

I'm not sure about this. My thoughts:

  1. @skial has spent years building up an archive of extremely high quality content and an audience that's keen to listen. So if you want to keep it as your own site or have your own plans I don't think it would be right for us to try scrape all your data. If you're okay with bringing it under the haxe.org / Haxe Foundation banner than we can explore that - I doubt anyone will object.
  2. Either way I think the content is extremely valuable and we should link to it prominently - maybe a "News" box on the homepage? I've currently put a link on the community page, but having the latest post linked to prominently on the homepage would be great too. If the content stays on haxe.io, we can just use RSS to get a headline, link and summary. (Happy to help if you need it @skial). If we bring the content under the site, that's also great.
  3. Is there need for "official" HF blog posts? Things like announcing WWX, talking about an upcoming release, etc? If there is we could have the "news" box have a feed merging both these blogs and the Haxe.io posts.
  4. I don't think there's need to syndicate any other blogs, the weekly roundup + official posts is sufficient in my opinion.
ncannasse commented 10 years ago
  1. No sure if we might need that, I think more than half of them would be actual links to third party blog posts, this gives better impression then ourselves selling our own thing, and writing long posts is not much fashionable anymore. Maybe simply a twitter box for @haxe_org activity would be enough ?
ncannasse commented 10 years ago

PS: I currently manage haxe_org Twitter. The idea is to have more "official news" about Haxe whereas haxelang is more for community things.

Simn commented 10 years ago

I don't really care for a twitter box. The content there tends to be much lower quality than the roundups.

But I also don't just want to grab the content and display it on our site, which is why I would like to explore how to make this more official.

frabbit commented 10 years ago

how about adding a news section with official posts (release posts), a twitter box and a prominent link (with description) to haxe.io.

skial commented 10 years ago

I wouldn't be against having a prominent link to haxe.io on haxe.org or a box of the latest posts ;) and being officially endorsed by the HF somehow would be great as well, hosting official announcements on haxe.io would be enough of an endorsement.

As for long posts not being that fashionable anymore, having articles of the quality www.smashingmagazine.com/ and alistapart.com/ release is a goal I would like haxe.io to try to achieve.

As for the technical side of haxe.io it can be replaced by something else if it really needs to be as the content is just markdown, html and css hosted on aws s3.

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how about adding a news section with official posts (release posts), a twitter box and a prominent link to haxe.io.

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lexoyo commented 10 years ago

+1 for prominent links

and silex labs has an news feed for haxe too

Merelleya commented 9 years ago

Just a quick note on blogs and fresh content.

Having new blog-like content is still very important for any website. It's not that it's not worth it anymore, it's just a lot of work. But, if you are willing to put in the hours needed for nice features and posts, the payoff is definitely there.

I would love to have the roundups featured more prominently and lately (since the announcement of wwx 2015) I have also felt the need for a news section. I know you all talk with each other by e-mail and chat, but some of the website's purposes are:

  1. Showcasing Haxe and what can be done with it
  2. Providing a point of entry for new users/interested parties

It's basically your storefront window, so it should be up to date and provide actual insight as well as make the reader/viewer want to find out more about Haxe, the foundation and what is going on.

I think a news section would support this beautifully and having Brendon endorsed as "official roundup" is more than overdue.

I would leave the decision up to him (whether he prefers a prominent link, or share the official news section).

A twitter box could be useful as well. I would implement it and then see (via analytics) if people actually interact with it. Another possibility would be to link to the hashtag search #haxe on twitter.

In light of WWX approaching fast, I would really love to have the News and the Roundups (if possible) soon.

Let's get to it, guys!

Fiene

Simn commented 9 years ago

I'm still against a twitter box. We should avoid fragmentation of possible news sources and there's always the problem of quality control. The content work @skial is doing is invaluable and I don't want to taint it with what the peasants have to say on twitter. :)

ncannasse commented 9 years ago

I actually setup twitter https://twitter.com/haxe_org for this purpose, which is to provide an important-news-only account for important events. We could have have someone taking care of it with that in mind (vs https://twitter.com/haxelang which is more community-oriented), posting important announcements as well as Skial weekly roundups

Merelleya commented 9 years ago

I am happy to deal with the twitter account, however, I think It would still be good to feature it on the website, seeing as that is the place you refer people to who are "looking" at Haxe for the first time. Also, twitter is very short-lived and retrieving information is tedious. I think it's very important to have a place where you can store information more "permanently" and later go back and look it up.

skial commented 9 years ago

I think a news section would support this beautifully and having Brendon endorsed as "official roundup" is more than overdue. I would leave the decision up to him (whether he prefers a prominent link, or share the official news section).

I don't think you need to officially endorse the roundups, haxe.io is already linked to so thats enough of an endorsement I feel. I wouldn't turn down a more prominent link :smile:.

A twitter box could be useful as well. I would implement it and then see (via analytics) if people actually interact with it. Another possibility would be to link to the hashtag search #haxe on twitter.

If you decide to have a twitter box it might be better to show a curated list of tweets instead of just #haxe which receives quite a bit of spam.

I currently keep an eye on the following search #haxe OR #openfl OR #snowkit OR #snowkitcommunity OR #luxeengine OR @haxelang OR @haxeflixel OR @haxepunk OR #transpiler OR #transpilers OR #awe6.

If you dare to interact with the twitter api, @NicoM1 haxebot has already done some work on what to search for, block and filter.

Simn commented 9 years ago

I'd be okay with a twitter box for some managed account like haxe_org if someone actually posts there. That's the thing though: we (as in the Haxe Foundation) don't usually have much news to share. This makes the whole thing seem rather inactive.

jasononeil commented 9 years ago

Last update on @ haxe_org was July 29, so there would need to be some new content. Even just retweeting the haxe.io links each week, plus release announcements and event news?

Adding the twitter box is dead easy. The code is:

            <a class="twitter-timeline"  href="https://twitter.com/haxe_org" data-widget-id="570353343810109440">Tweets by @haxe_org</a>
            <script>!function(d,s,id){var js,fjs=d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0],p=/^http:/.test(d.location)?'http':'https';if(!d.getElementById(id)){js=d.createElement(s);js.id=id;js.src=p+"://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js";fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js,fjs);}}(document,"script","twitter-wjs");</script>

The next question is, where to put it? In terms of homepage sections, I'm thinking:

Where News Highlight would be:

or something similar. I could work with @Merelleya to get the first WWX promo content up and in place?

Merelleya commented 9 years ago

so we can agree on the following: