Feature Request: Support the Wyze Doorbell Cam which has NO microsd at all.

[famewolf]

One of the biggest disappointments for many people on the wyze doorbell cam was that it doesn't have a microsd for local storage. If we can mount a nfs share identical to how we are doing now it can be used along with wyzecam-hls and shinobi.

[gtxaspec]

interesting. it uses the same SoC as the wyze cam v3.

I don't see any firmware available yet though...

[famewolf]

I don't think it's even shipped yet but I have one pre-ordered. We'd also have to come up with some method to review the footage...I saw a scripts which will take an sdcard and create a mp4 of an entire day for viewing....this would be useful for all the cams as wyzecam-hls's thread is unreliable...I could only get it to work with shinobi but even there it's missing alot of time that IS being saved to the nfs share because I can view it from inside the app.

[HclX]

I have one and confirm they are very similar to the camera except the lack of sd card. I haven't really looked at it yet, it's on my list but busy due to holidays:)

[cheme75]

I’m beta testing so have several permutations of the hardware from orig to prerelease. I only opened up one due to an assembly glitch that pinched and split the WiFi antenna wire which I reported and got a replacement. Others told me the cam itself was same as v2. However, they did a hardware revision and I only have the one so haven’t opened it, appears to be the pre-release retail version. The cam may be more like outdoor cam, which I think is same as v2, don’t think it’s the v3 cam since it doesn’t seem to have same low light ability. I’m only a chem engr, not into coding, but I’d love to try loading this fw onto an older unit to make it useful as a monitoring cam. So far the old units still work but with no ssd card and no cloud connection, they are simply dumb cams for live streaming, plus they could block them in the retail app making them totally useless.

[famewolf]

I just received my pre-order video doorbell today and am reviewing the install instructions on youtube. I should be available to beta test a version should you need another tester.

[gtxaspec]

there is a hidden micro USB port above the power contacts under a sticker, the unit can also be powered using micro USB. just fyi

[famewolf]

there is a hidden micro USB port above the power contacts under a sticker, the unit can also be powered using micro USB. just fyi

Have you checked if an OTG cable with a sd card reader would give it a sdcard? Some of the OTG cables are tiny and so are the readers. I have some of these: https://www.adafruit.com/product/2910 Thanks for the info!

[gtxaspec]

no clue, I discovered it from reviewing the fcc docs, and it was confirmed by another user on the wyzecam subreddit. still waiting for them to come back in stock so I can get a few.

[famewolf]

no clue, I discovered it from reviewing the fcc docs, and it was confirmed by another user on the wyzecam subreddit. still waiting for them to come back in stock so I can get a few.

Just to confirm...you are not talking about the sticker that has the qr code? I have what appears to be a rubber plug above the terminals as opposed to a sticker. (I assume to waterproof it)

[gtxaspec]

another user said it was a sticker, it could be a rubber plug. ref https://fccid.io/2AUIUWVDB1/Internal-Photos/Internal-Photos-4957362.pdf

[cheme75]

It’s not a plug, just a rubber sticker to keep moisture out of the USB port. It peels off once you can lift an edge to grab it. I assume it’s how they load up the initial firmware. I’m powering a couple of early beta models just for viewing the live stream since they still connect to the beta app. But haven’t been able to connect one to my pc yet.

[famewolf]

It’s not a plug, just a rubber sticker to keep moisture out of the USB port. It peels off once you can lift an edge to grab it. I assume it’s how they load up the initial firmware. I’m powering a couple of early beta models just for viewing the live stream since they still connect to the beta app. But haven’t been able to connect one to my pc yet.

Thanks...I wasn't being enthusiastic and pulling it up till I made sure I didn't mess something up. The tears in picture are huge compared to actual viewing.

[famewolf]

Something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Ribbon-Degree-Angled-Female-Charging/dp/B07Q9K64PN/ plus a microsd card reader like the one I listed above might work. Hopefully there are cheaper versions on ebay.

[cheme75]

I’m really new at this so will have to read on how to hack the V2 and see if maybe there’s some insight on getting into the db.

[famewolf]

I’m really new at this so will have to read on how to hack the V2 and see if maybe there’s some insight on getting into the db.

Well HclX is currently working on the v3 cams so might be a while although the "send a modded firmware update" method seems to be a "universal" solution for now since the updates are unsigned.

[HclX]

Guys, I took a brief look at the firmware of the doorbell. I don't think recording onto nfs share is possible as they don't have that code compiled. It's possible to enable telnet support (which I remember I already enabled in latest release) but not much you can get from there.

Also, the micro usb port might be a usb otg port but I don't have a cable splitter to verify that.

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I’m really new at this so will have to read on how to hack the V2 and see if maybe there’s some insight on getting into the db.

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[thompatry]

Could you possibly take the compiled NFS execs and libs from the Cam v3 and put them on the doorbell?

[HclX]

That might be possible, but you will get a v3 camera and lose the doorbell functionality:)

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Could you possibly take the compiled NFS execs and libs from the Cam v3 and put them on the doorbell?

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[famewolf]

Could the doorbell ftp to a ip on the lan (with or without user/password) and upload the 1 minute files..perhaps maintaining the connection?

[HclX]

No need to use ftp, I can get NFS mounted. The problem is camera won't record anything on filesystem, so no way to get the video out without drastically change the camera executable.

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Could the doorbell ftp to a ip on the lan (with or without user/password) and upload the 1 minute files..perhaps maintaining the connection?

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[gtxaspec]

I see, so the doorbell does not record ANY video to the file system, i wonder how and where it caches (probably to ram?) it and uploads it to the cloud. (probably does it only on motion anyway) And there still isn't a way to make the video devices accessible by multiple programs I assume...

[famewolf]

Well crap...I was hoping it at least kept the previous minute until the current one overwrote it.

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No need to use ftp, I can get NFS mounted. The problem is camera won't record anything on filesystem, so no way to get the video out without drastically change the camera executable.

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Could the doorbell ftp to a ip on the lan (with or without user/password) and upload the 1 minute files..perhaps maintaining the connection?

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[thompatry]

You would have to looking into the connecting to the camera node. I know someone out there was working on something like this for the latest Cam v2 firmware. The were trying to get RSTP to work while keeping the latest firmware.

[cheme75]

The db just does the default 12sec but it’s camplus capable so there must be a tweak to disable the 12 sec limit.

[cheme75]

It does seem to upload and replay from the cloud since a lot of replay problems have been due to the servers. Rtsp fw would be nice to see happen.

[famewolf]

It does seem to upload and replay from the cloud since a lot of replay problems have been due to the servers. Rtsp fw would be nice to see happen.

Bad design on wyze's part...not all of us have high speed internet (I use a wifi hotspot and get 10 to 16 megabit...funny how that's slow nowadays but a while back that was the best you could get from cable tv). Not being able to view a cam locally is already a major pain since it uploads it all so wyze's server can download it to my phone. If I view to many at once it starts telling me to downgrade quality.

[cheme75]

Ya, I’m not thrill with the wyze. I bought a V2 simply to watch front door area for package delivery notifications since they advertised free person detection. Now it’s a subscription. I bought a set of plugs and they work ok but they just replace old timers that also worked fine, just more convenient for operating via app or by voice with Alexa. Got a pair of bulbs free in a promo deal and they are ok. I don’t really have much need for automation beyond simple toggling on at sunset and off at bedtime. The big weakness became very apparent when our internet service junction box got flooded and service started dropping out. None of the wyze stuff worked. The dbell actually failed completely refusing to reconnect. They sent a replacement which has been ok and I returned the failed unit but I never heard about the cause. Got a new line run from junction box to house so at least internet had been ok again.

[famewolf]

Well I gambled with my pre-order and guess I just barely got my $50 worth unlike the thermostat which was considerably more bang for the buck. I mean I already have a wireless doorbell that rings both the normal chime plus a plug in one on opposite side of the house and could have easily mounted a v2 cam where it could record folks approaching the door. I hesitated when I was writing to microsd because a camera that low could literally be ripped off the wall and taken with whoever might be up to no good but now I'd at least have the nfs feed. Win some and lose some I guess. I need to setup my raspberry pi to upload the video files to a cloud service. There is a script called wyzecombiner someone wrote that will takes all the little files and spit out a daily video file.

[cheme75]

We live in so flo due to wife’s job relo to Miami so did a lot of research. Luckily I had a cousin who lived here a while and my wife had good connections at work so we’re advised of best locations to settle. We chose south west broward county rather than Miami and it’s been a good decision from low crime to one of the lowest rates of covid in all of so flo. Anyway, we’re in 24/7 guard gated community with just one access road so exceptionally low incidents of any sort here. I was surprised to read on nextdoor a person a few blocks over had pkgs stolen. Probably a one off since we never heard any fallout or repeat offenses. I looked at the available db cams but most all were expensive and required subscriptions so turned me off. Looked at alt cams and saw quite a few, wyze had good reviews and free person detection with 14 days cloud stg. So for $20 I figured I’d setup a cam to watch front, we have a sidelight window next to front door and a privacy film so no one can see in. Original person AI was ok, missed at times since I have to keep cam on it’s side to get view of both the landing for packages and vertically for faces, and being inside wasn’t able to use IR lights on it at night. But there’s an overhead sensor light that works well to illuminate the area. Long story, it works for our needs. The new wyze AI is better finally, and it’s grandfathered into a pay what you want for the person detection, I pay zero since that’s why I bought it. I’m following these hacks since we plan to relo out of so flo for retirement and I can see benefits of using these cams for security in more open communities, but I refuse to get sucked into a subscription. Id probably look to the rtsp firmware so. I could use better software and these hacks for local stg on my NAS.

[famewolf]

Sadly the rtsp firmware is WAY out of date and you'd totally lose all the cloud upload. I've also read it's flaky. I've debated the issue myself as I have a couple of nas's as well and have played around with shinobi and a couple of other cam monitoring packages.

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We live in so flo due to wife’s job relo to Miami so did a lot of research. Luckily I had a cousin who lived here a while and my wife had good connections at work so we’re advised of best locations to settle. We chose south west broward county rather than Miami and it’s been a good decision from low crime to one of the lowest rates of covid in all of so flo. Anyway, we’re in 24/7 guard gated community with just one access road so exceptionally low incidents of any sort here. I was surprised to read on nextdoor a person a few blocks over had pkgs stolen. Probably a one off since we never heard any fallout or repeat offenses. I looked at the available db cams but most all were expensive and required subscriptions so turned me off. Looked at alt cams and saw quite a few, wyze had good reviews and free person detection with 14 days cloud stg. So for $20 I figured I’d setup a cam to watch front, we have a sidelight window next to front door and a privacy film so no one can see in. Original person AI was ok, missed at times since I have to keep cam on it’s side to get view of both the landing for packages and vertically for faces, and being inside wasn’t able to use IR lights on it at night. But there’s an overhead sensor light that works well to illuminate the area. Long story, it works for our needs. The new wyze AI is better finally, and it’s grandfathered into a pay what you want for the person detection, I pay zero since that’s why I bought it. I’m following these hacks since we plan to relo out of so flo for retirement and I can see benefits of using these cams for security in more open communities, but I refuse to get sucked into a subscription. Id probably look to the rtsp firmware so. I could use better software and these hacks for local stg on my NAS. — You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub (https://github.com/HclX/WyzeHacks/issues/69#issuecomment-771661166), or unsubscribe (https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ABCY74HQMXD5T2XLVSEIDEDS5ABZLANCNFSM4VSMNDIQ).

[cheme75]

I thought I saw an updated rtsp fw not too long ago on the wyze forum, but ya, reading the forum, it does seem full of flaws - I've avoid it so far, but I keep it mind for future use. Right now If I had to pick a retail option, I'd probably go with eufy for low end security monitoring. I was thinking I'd take out the cam unit from a doorbell and see if I could connect it to a rasp pi somehow - it's a bit beyond my typical electronics skill - the most I've messed with was ages ago - soldering in a jumper to fix a mobo per mfg's instructions back in the 386 days.

[famewolf]

I do not have a soldering "skill". I have a soldering "attempt" that may or may not work while looking UGLY. I've debated taking a cam apart...got one that works fine in day but at night is "cloudy" using the ir light...not sure why. Got a dead one on my desk here that has the yellow light on all the time and is unresponsive to reset or anything else. Figured I'd try it first.

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I thought I saw an updated rtsp fw not too long ago on the wyze forum, but ya, reading the forum, it does seem full of flaws - I've avoid it so far, but I keep it mind for future use. Right now If I had to pick a retail option, I'd probably go with eufy for low end security monitoring. I was thinking I'd take out the cam unit from a doorbell and see if I could connect it to a rasp pi somehow - it's a bit beyond my typical electronics skill - the most I've messed with was ages ago - soldering in a jumper to fix a mobo per mfg's instructions back in the 386 days. — You are receiving this because you authored the thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub (https://github.com/HclX/WyzeHacks/issues/69#issuecomment-771794085), or unsubscribe (https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ABCY74DZHK4NJNIJNG6ZEHDS5AWCBANCNFSM4VSMNDIQ).

[gtxaspec]

@famewolf

I think you may be misinforned. the rtsp firmware was just recently updated, within month or so, and to my knowledge included all features from the mainline firmware.

[cheme75]

HaHa! Been soldering since I was a kid - I built a fuzz pedal for a cheap electric guitar I had when I was a young teen. My dad built our home stereo from a kit so we had plenty of stuff around. I got into stained glass work in the 80s and got good at soldering, although it's not as fine a level as for electronics. Anyway, if you find some success, would be nice to hear the details.

[famewolf]

@famewolf

I think you may be misinforned. the rtsp firmware was just recently updated, within month or so, and to my knowledge included all features from the mainline firmware.

I would LOVE to be wrong. All features including cloud storage or is that still a loss? Stable now or still flaky?

[yortnoswad]

I noticed nobody replied to this. Here is the link: https://forums.wyzecam.com/t/new-rtsp-binaries-for-beta-testing/145275 Where it says the following

Hi All,

We have a new version of RTSP firmware for testing! To make sure we capture all issues, please only use this forum thread to report RTSP issues.

Links: v2: https://download.wyzecam.com/firmware/rtsp/demo_v2_rtsp_4.28.4.49.bin.zip 726 https://download.wyzecam.com/firmware/rtsp/demo_v2_rtsp_4.28.4.49.bin.zip Pan: https://download.wyzecam.com/firmware/rtsp/demo_Pan_rtsp_4.29.4.49.bin.zip 248 https://download.wyzecam.com/firmware/rtsp/demo_Pan_rtsp_4.29.4.49.bin.zip

RTST installation/setup instructions: https://wyzelabs.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360026245231-Wyze-Cam-RTSP 769 https://wyzelabs.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360026245231-Wyze-Cam-RTSP

Change list:

• Added RTSP functionality based on 4.X.6.199 firmware
• Applied security update since previous version of RTSP firmware

Note: This is a one-time effort from Wyze to support RTSP functionality on Wyze Cam v2 and Pan. We are not committing to ongoing maintenance for RTSP firmware. New features will not be updated on the firmware.

Enjoy the new binaries!

Your Wyze Team

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I think you may be misinforned. the rtsp firmware was just recently updated, within month or so, and to my knowledge included all features from the mainline firmware.

I would LOVE to be wrong. All features including cloud storage or is that still a loss? Stable now or still flaky?

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[famewolf]

@yortnoswad I appreciate the info.....but you didn't answer the one question I asked....do you still lose all cloud storage?

I browsed the discussion thread and alot of people are still unhappy with that firmware...lots of wifi dropouts....then again I'm getting those now with the regular firmware. (camera's go offline with no notice from wyze app and can be off for days till I happen to check the feed. I've given up on using wyzecam-hls to generate a rtsp compatible feed,,,,I could never keep it working in shinobi.

[yortnoswad]

Tried it after you just asked. The answer is no, you do not loose cloud storage

I setup a wyze cam with the above firmware, and setup the rtsp according to the directions. I connected a computer up to the rtsp feed and was streaming the feed. I enabled motion dection, then created motion (walked in front of the camera). The rtsp feed continued to work, and it uploaded the motion to the normal wyze cloud storage.

I did not test if it also did nfs writing at the same time. I don't have nfs writing setup.

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@yortnoswad https://github.com/yortnoswad I appreciate the info.....but you didn't answer the one question I asked....do you still lose all cloud storage?

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Tried it after you just asked. The answer is no, you do not loose cloud storage I setup a wyze cam with the above firmware, and setup the rtsp according to the directions. I connected a computer up to the rtsp feed and was streaming the feed. I enabled motion dection, then created motion (walked in front of the camera). The rtsp feed continued to work, and it uploaded the motion to the normal wyze cloud storage. I did not test if it also did nfs writing at the same time. I don't have nfs writing setup. … On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 10:49 AM famewolf @.***> wrote: @yortnoswad https://github.com/yortnoswad I appreciate the info.....but you didn't answer the one question I asked....do you still lose all cloud storage? — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#69 (comment)>, or unsubscribe https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAF4M6XI6WSKZ7ELDWJAOYTS5Q4T3ANCNFSM4VSMNDIQ .

Thanks...that's great news I'll pass on to some of my friends with cams. I appreciate you going to that effort. I just figured you might know if you were using it.

[appleguru]

Finally got my wyze doorbell installed. Any tricks to getting telnet going @HclX ? Or do the normal instructions “just work”?

When I tried the remote installer, it only shows 1/4 of my wyze cams. (doesn't list the v3 cams or the doorbell)

[famewolf]

He's still working on v3 support so I would assume both are in the dev branch and not stable.

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Finally got my wyze doorbell installed. Any tricks to getting telnet going @HclX (https://github.com/HclX) ? Or do the normal instructions “just work”? When I tried the remote installer, it only shows 1/4 of my wyze cams. (doesn't list the v3 cams or the doorbell) — You are receiving this because you were mentioned. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub (https://github.com/HclX/WyzeHacks/issues/69#issuecomment-782972902), or unsubscribe (https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ABCY74CAGVCOCDBEFHHELE3TAGUA5ANCNFSM4VSMNDIQ).

[appleguru]

He's still working on v3 support so I would assume both are in the dev branch and not stable. …

Thanks, I did a stupid and was on my (out of date) local copy and not the latest master. Latest master sees v3 cams and the doorbell. dev_v3 branch sees v3 only. dev sees all. None seem to enable telnet for the doorbell though; will try manually with wyze updater next..

[HclX]

@appleguru Please use wyze updater approach, it works and will not change anything permanently. Keep in mind, if you brick it, you can't recover it since there is no SD card slot.

[appleguru]

@HclX I wonder if manually adding a sdcard_exist=1 flag to the [SETTING] block in /etc/config/.user_config would make a difference..

[HclX]

I haven't looked into this thoroughly, but a quick scan in the firmware shows no code referring sd card at all. This is understandable as they don't even have sd card slot available so it's reasonable to assume they don't have code dealing with it. The best thing we can get is to copy the video to nfs share manually if they ever record it somewhere before uploading it. But I'd say the chances are slim.

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@HclX https://github.com/HclX I wonder if manually adding a sdcard_exist=1 flag to the [SETTING] block in /etc/config/.user_config would make a difference..

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[appleguru]

Semi related question… what’s the easiest way to grab a file off the camera? And has wyze published firmware for this somewhere yet?

[HclX]

They don't publish the firmware binary since there is no need for users to get it (because you can't do sdcard recovery). I got the first update image by inspecting the https traffic of the app when there is an update available. And I figured out how to run custom script on the device based on that image. After that I got telnet enabled then you can simply btelnet onto the device and copy file to a NFS share.

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Semi related question… what’s the easiest way to grab a file off the camera? And has wyze published firmware for this somewhere yet?

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[appleguru]

Thanks... one other iCamera config flag that looks (potentially) useful: storage_device=1

[appleguru]

And finally /backupa/localPic.jpg looks interesting

(mostly leaving these notes here for myself to pickup once I have NFS or another way of grabbing files up and running)

[famewolf]

Semi related question… what’s the easiest way to grab a file off the camera? And has wyze published firmware for this somewhere yet?

In one of the threads about telnet one of the users posted instructions on how to install ftpd on the camera so you could log in and get the files.....this might be an alternative if nfs is a no go.