jleclanche
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8 years ago Yeah, this is because of the zone size check in Steal. it could be reproduced with mind control before djinni, I thought we had a bug open for it.
Closed PattuX closed 8 years ago
jleclanche
commented
8 years ago Yeah, this is because of the zone size check in Steal. it could be reproduced with mind control before djinni, I thought we had a bug open for it.
PattuX
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8 years ago You mean #174 ? I don't feel like that is the bug here tho...
jleclanche
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8 years ago No, it's a different one. Basically, when a steal effect happens in the play zone, it checks if the size of the target zone >= 7. But if source zone == target zone, that check obviously shouldn't happen.
Patashu
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8 years ago Should it also not create summoning sickness (in the case of in-place Mind Control)?
jleclanche
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8 years ago Doesn't it?
Xinhuan
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8 years ago The in-place steal effect @jleclanche cited is from this video last year by Bubchacha:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc7oejbhdUA
It is mentioned tangentially in #159 where it affects in-place "return to hand" causing discards, but otherwise no existing issue created for in-place steal effects in the play zone.
PattuX
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8 years ago Despite the fact that the Shadow Madness shouldn't kill minions in those cases, I'm still pretty sure Shadow Madness shouldn't be cast on the Djinnis at all as they say "Whenever"... edit: basically what Patashus says in his new Hearthstone Sciene video. Ddin't see it until now ^^
jleclanche
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8 years ago I think the main problem is that until now, Steal effects could never be cast on friendly minions so we seldom got to see what happened with them in such situations. So this needs Blizzard's word on it, but I'm guessing it's pretty clearly a design issue.
Pah, besides, if Djinni didn't have a timing inconsistent with its card text this wouldn't even be a problem...
PattuX
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8 years ago It was a problem before. Just look at Sylvanas shenanigans in the several yt links. (As Patashu explained: Mind Control with Violet teacher, Knife Juggler, Explosive Speep and Sylvanas)
jleclanche
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8 years ago I know, yes, but it was nearly impossible for it to happen in a real game. With this, we might see it addressed, as it's not an unlikely issue to come up in a game.
culinko
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8 years ago PattuX
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8 years ago Could someone test whether this also happens, when you try to "return" your own minion to you own board with Shadow Madness?
culinko
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8 years ago It's the same interaction as can be seen in the video that Xinhuan linked, just for the opposing player. There is no reason to believe that it would behave differently.
Patashu
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8 years ago FYI: Double-bouncing into a 9/10 card hand (Baron Rivendare + Anub'arak) no longer discards the card. Tested in Patch 4.0. So we can only see this interaction with minions now.
Patashu
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8 years ago PattuX
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8 years ago Confirmed with Brann + Cabal in 4.1
Patashu
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8 years ago Confirmed as a bug by Ben Brode on twitter here:
Patashu
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8 years ago Can this please be tested in 4.2? It's probably fixed, and if it is, I need to update the Advanced rulebook appropriately.
culinko
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8 years ago Tested all 3 interactions, fixed in 4.2.
Patashu
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8 years ago https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/4gqpi3/frustrating_cabal_shadowpriest_glitch/
Interesting, this bug is back in 5.0.
Patashu
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8 years ago It's possible this bug got hotfixed today.
culinko
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8 years ago Yes, can confirm it's been fixed.
If you cast a Shadow Madness on an enemy minion while having 6 minions on the board, your first played Djinni of Zephyrs will die and all remaining Djinnis will gain charge.
In addition, if you use Cabal Shadow Priest with Brann Bronzebeard in play, and stealing the enemy minion makes your board full, the second Cabal Battlecry will destroy the stolen minion, because it sees that the destination is full and counts itself.
This is likely a bug, because a similar interaction occurred if you bounced a minion from your hand to your hand while your hand was full (such as by destroying your Anub'arak with a 9/10 card hand and Baron Rivendare in play), and this interaction was changed to not discard the double bounced minion from your hand.
Acknowledged as a bug here: