Closed grayjared closed 2 years ago
- Main Issue - hekili priorities doesn't show to spam Whirlwind after bladestorm, doesn't count merciless bonegrinder as a buff Merciless Bonegrinder shows as a buff on raidbots, as well shows that whirlwind is a large part of the damage output when merciless bonegrinder and bladestorm are both selected.
The addon detected the buff in your snapshot.
here's a link comparing other abilities in aoe situations showing that merciless bonegrinder + bladestorm is the highest dps combination. raidbots.com/simbot/report/48hK7XZcw6Q27zxG1k6f5M
This sim doesn't show what you're saying it shows.
If you look at this part of the sim, after Bladestorm is used, other abilities are used in addition to Whirlwind -- the priority itself is still considered.
In your sim, the first Whirlwind is the equivalent of this entry:
21. whirlwind ( default - 18 )
The action (whirlwind) is usable at (1.19 + 1.18).
- the action is ready before the current recommendation (at +1.18 vs. +10.00).
- this entry's criteria FAILS: level[60.00] > 36 & ( spell_targets.whirlwind[2.00] > 1 & ! buff.meat_cleaver.up[true] | raid_event.adds.in[3600.00] < gcd.execute[1.18] & ! buff.meat_cleaver.up[true] )
Your sim selected this entry, labeled B
because Meat Cleaver was not active. In the addon, you already have Meat Cleaver up.
The other entry that your sim (labeled as L
) is:
actions.single_target+=/whirlwind,if=buff.merciless_bonegrinder.up&spell_targets.whirlwind>3
The addon didn't get to consider that entry, because a higher priority entry was already selected. If it had been considered, it would not have been used because you only have 2 active enemies. Your sim is based on 4 enemies.
The higher priority entry was:
61. raging_blow ( single_target - 14 )
The action (raging_blow) is usable at (1.19 + 1.18).
- the action is ready before the current recommendation (at +1.18 vs. +10.00).
List ( single_target ) called from ( Fury:default:35 ) would PASS at 1.18.
NONE
- this entry's criteria PASSES: set_bonus.tier28_2pc[0.00] | charges[2.00] = 2 | ( buff.recklessness.up[false] & variable.execute_phase[false] & talent.massacre.enabled[false] )
This entry for Raging Blow is labeled J
in your sim. You can see the relative positioning of these entries here:
The Whirlwind further down the list is not used when Raging Blow is available and its conditions are met.
Note the highlight on merciless_bonegrinder -- it is clearly active in the sim but Raging Blow is used.
Here is another sim of your character with 2 targets (to match your snapshot):
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/r5LpzLVCSUWmhujxkfwwmm/simc
You can see here that the behavior matches what the addon is recommending. You're getting Whirlwind casts that proc Meat Cleaver, and then both charges are spent and then you Whirlwind again to reproc Meat Cleaver.
So, doing some additional testing, I ran another sim that modifies the default priority to be in line with what you're asking for -- and it is a DPS increase.
Changes:
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4fdgGyCbpBV9jF4w8zJ93m
That means that this may be something that belongs in a SimulationCraft issue ticket, assuming that testing would show this is consistently better for other talent/gear/covenant combinations.
I am running some comparison sims via Bloodmallet now to see if this should be changed for SimulationCraft.
Thanks so much for looking into this for me. I really appreciate it.
From: Hekili @.> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2022 12:28:28 PM To: Hekili/hekili @.> Cc: grayjared @.>; Author @.> Subject: Re: [Hekili/hekili] Fury Warrior Merciless Bonegrinder no longer showing in priority (Issue #1431)
I am running some comparison sims via Bloodmallet now to see if this should be changed for SimulationCraft.
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I've fiddled with it a bit and it's just an optimization that becomes less and less valuable as you get better gear. I'm not sure if it's genuinely worth pursuing without a lot more data. Will continue to ponder.
I'm not going to pursue this further because it's not proving beneficial consistently enough to build into the addon.
Alright, thanks again. I’ll play around with it a bit more myself as well.
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I've fiddled with it a bit and it's just an optimization that becomes less and less valuable as you get better gear. I'm not sure if it's genuinely worth pursuing without a lot more data. Will continue to ponder.
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Before You Begin
Describe the Issue
Whirlwind no longer shows as a priority no matter how large of a group is within radius for Fury spec when Merciless Bonegrinder conduit is chosen. Have not tried in arms. I was unable to find how to add it into the priority again, it had worked pre-9.2 and was top priority after bladestorm in aoe situations.
build: v9.2.0-1.0.9a level: 60 (60) class: WARRIOR spec: fury
talents: anger_management bladestorm cruelty double_time frenzy sudden_death warpaint
pvptalents: none
covenant: kyrian
conduits: condensed_anima_sphere = 11 depths_of_insanity = 11 inspiring_presence = 11 merciless_bonegrinder = 11 piercing_verdict = 11 stalwart_guardian = 11
soulbinds: [forgelite_prime_mikanikos] brons_call_to_action = 1 effusive_anima_accelerator = 1 forgelite_filter = 1 regenerating_materials = 1 soulglow_spectrometer = 1 soulsteel_clamps = 1
sets: inscrutable_quantum_device = 1
gear: azurevenom_choker = 1 bloodoath_signet = 1 breastplate_of_otherworldly_influence = 1 cloak_of_enveloping_manifestations = 1 fused_bone_greatbelt = 1 guilewind_stone_talons = 1 implacable_weatherproof_treads = 1 inscrutable_quantum_device = 1 legplates_of_the_slumbering_sentinel = 1 phial_of_putrefaction = 1 rimebinders_runeblade = 1 shadowghast_ring = 1 shadowsteel_helm = 1 stoneflesh_spaulders = 1 thunderous_echo_vambraces = 1
legendaries: signet_of_tormented_kings = 1
itemIDs: 171445, 178734, 178771, 178780, 178814, 178840, 178851, 178871, 178926, 179350, 180113, 180115, 185787, 185803, 189778
settings: aoe = 2 buffPadding = 0 combatRefresh = 0.1 custom1Name = Custom 1 custom2Name = Custom 2 cycle = false cycle_min = 6 damage = true damageDots = false damageExpiration = 8 damagePets = false damageRange = 0 debuffPadding = 0 enabled = true enhancedRecheck = false gcdSync = true maxTime = 10 nameplateRange = 8 nameplates = true noFeignedCooldown = false package = Fury petbased = false potion = potion_of_phantom_fire potionsReset = 20180919.1 regularRefresh = 0.5 throttleRefresh = false throttleTime = false check_ww_range = true heroic_charge = false
toggles: cooldowns = true custom1 = false custom2 = false defensives = false essences = true [overridden] interrupts = false mode = automatic potions = false
keybinds: bladestorm = 6 [01], 6 [06] bloodbath = 4 [01] bloodthirst = 4 [01] charge = 0 [01] crushing_blow = 2 [01] execute = 1 [01] hamstring = 9 [01] intimidating_shout = 1 [07], 1 [08] pummel = = [01] raging_blow = 2 [01] rampage = 3 [01] storm_bolt = 8 [01] taunt = S1 [06] victory_rush = - [01] whirlwind = 5 [01]
How to Reproduce
Snapshot (Link)
https://pastebin.com/443aFdHd
Raidbots Sim Report (Link)
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nzFSEA5RRReo6kifnbnK6m
Additional Information
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5zZKN4MqWax9669zXk9eyF
Merciless Bonegrinder shows as a buff on raidbots, as well shows that whirlwind is a large part of the damage output when merciless bonegrinder and bladestorm are both selected.
here's a link comparing other abilities in aoe situations showing that merciless bonegrinder + bladestorm is the highest dps combination. https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/48hK7XZcw6Q27zxG1k6f5M
Contact Information
Boomshakalaka#5142