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Hekili Priority Helper for DPS and Tanks (WoW Retail)
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Assassination Rogue priority is off. #3809

Closed Shyirasky closed 1 month ago

Shyirasky commented 1 month ago

Before You Begin

Spec

Rogue - Assassination

Describe the Issue

It seems, when not specced into improved garrote, it suggests we still are using Vanish>Ambush in combat, this is actually a dps loss compared to just pressing mutilate. There are talents which increase ambush combo points by one point, but overall, it is more important to save our vanish, to reapply deathstalkers mark during boss intermissions where it falls off. So there players learning, using the addon, will be following a dps loss priority, I have tried editing the scripts myself, but i'm not too verse with them.

How to Reproduce

Remove Vanish completely from the priority list, unless speced into Improved Garrote (so we can reapply one later in fight)

Snapshot (Link)

I mean, you won't need a screenshot for this.

Raidbots Sim Report (Link)

No response

Additional Information

It's likely a straight forward issue, but im not entirely sure why the priority is this in the first place, whether that's how the sims do it im not sure, but after much discussion in the ravenholt discord, this is a loss in dps to vanish>ambush, in main rotation

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syrifgit commented 1 month ago

Please get a proper snapshot during the time you think the recommendation is incorrect.

Instructions: https://github.com/Hekili/hekili/wiki/Report-An-Issue#how-do-i-get-a-snapshot

Shyirasky commented 1 month ago

https://pastebin.com/rdhhCgFC

Here is it.

syrifgit commented 1 month ago

The class guide disagrees with you. If you think this is incorrect, you should bring it up with the rogue theorycrafters or provide a custom sim showing that it is a dps gain to make the modification.

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Shyirasky commented 1 month ago

Yeah we've spoken in the class guide and Whisper (person who wrote the guide) has said that since bug fixes this is no longer part of the rotation, he just hasn't updated the guide since.

syrifgit commented 1 month ago

Can you provide a quicksim showing the new rotation?

Shyirasky commented 1 month ago

You are right, in here, the apl does specifically use vanish+ambush, as priority as it seems to value combo point builder over the initial damage, however over the course of a fight, this ends up being a dps loss, so i suppose the hekili addon is using the apl from raidbots to determine the action list?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fgW9xY3a1o3rmmsUEHUEkD

If this is the case, then i suppose the addon is working as intended its actually the sim that is not working correctly since changes, and idea where I could go from here to try fix this? It's super "neich" i understand but I'm super curious about this all. Talking to some of the theory crafters etc in the discord about this atm too.

Shyirasky commented 1 month ago

Alright, after some further research, there is a bug in the game that is causing this issue and not the addon or apl, its just not been changed on the apl as of yet as the fix was looking to be implemented sooner rather than later, so the addon is actually following the sims apl correctly at the moment, apologies, can close this thread now.