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EE Compliancy for "Metallist" Translation Pack #9

Open Polymega opened 1 year ago

Polymega commented 1 year ago

Hello,

Thanks for your interest in adding a Russian translation pack to the Enhanced Edition's project page. We're excited to offer this pack in the future! I've looked over the Metallist translation pack and have some requested changes:

In regards to my notes below, I will be referencing this document often.

Change the language it overwrites from English to another Latin language

Right now, the language overwrites the English language. We typically encourage people who are making translation packs to not overwrite the English language for two reasons:

  1. English is often a second language for many, so it should remain an option.
  2. The English option does NOT translate the UFO ending cards. All other language options do. As such, you should use a different Latin language so Russian users can see the translated subtitles for the UFO ending cards. See here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X4k_2LFjS82ZTm1cbDRtUMB2x1qdfRjNIL0qUgPY7pg/edit#heading=h.405in8lvfet3

To change the language this pack uses: Simply rename all .mes files from *_e.mes to *_X.mes with "X" being either "S" (Spanish), "I" (Italian), "F" (French), or "G" (German).

After you do this, you will need to open option_msg_*.mes and change which language is Russian. For example, if you decide to replace the German language, you will open your option_msg_g.mes file, change "Russian" back to "English", and then change "German" to "Russian", if that makes sense.

After you make these changes, ensure the UFO ending cards are being correctly translated. Also, after you change it to another language being used, open the language.ini file and change the following line accordingly:

SET DX_CONFIG_LANGUAGE # - 2 = French, 3 = German, 4 = Italian, 5 = Spanish.

So if you changed the Russian pack to use German, you'd change this to SET DX_CONFIG_LANGUAGE 3.

Standardize save file colors

On the save screen, there are many colors used for save files. For EE, we have standardized these colors for m_card_x_msg_*.mes. Please reference this file to see how these strings should be re-colored. Note that we've changed colors for white, blue, and red throughout that document.

See here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X4k_2LFjS82ZTm1cbDRtUMB2x1qdfRjNIL0qUgPY7pg/edit#heading=h.ndiyy5lr2js

Save/Load Screen: Character Limitations

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These strings have character limitations. A has a limit of 11 characters. B has a limit of 27 characters. Please shorten these strings. If you don't, they will glitch out. You can see this for yourself by going to the SAVE (not LOAD) screen and scrolling through existing save files. As you scroll, these strings will begin to glitch out.

See here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X4k_2LFjS82ZTm1cbDRtUMB2x1qdfRjNIL0qUgPY7pg/edit#heading=h.fns41fbpz7b8

Change save file string name

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This save file says "Toilet", however this save file name is shared between the beginning bathroom, BAR Neely's, and the Motorhome. Try it yourself: Do a custom save in the Motorhome and you'll see the save file is called "Toilet." I recommend changing this string to say "Restroom/Motorhome/Bar".

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Some text needs to be blue

Anything that's being read from a note should have its text be blue. However, the devs forgot their own rule in a couple of places.

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Please change these lines to be blue. See here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X4k_2LFjS82ZTm1cbDRtUMB2x1qdfRjNIL0qUgPY7pg/edit#heading=h.1d337z371evw

Missing information

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The first letter for the combo is also missing. It is present in memo_x_msg_*.mes but not stage_apart_w2f_msg_*.mes. Please correct this. I'd also make sure spacing is correct for this string: #[space]>>[space]#[space]<<[space]#[space]>>[space]#

I recommend playing through the game to ensure there's no other puzzle riddles that have issues such as this!!!

Prepare for upcoming "Master Volume" feature

We will be introducing a Master Volume feature for our next update. As part of this, you will need to add two new lines to your r_menu_*.res file. Please add the following strings to line 28 and 29:

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\hMaster Volume
\hAdjust Master Volume

Remove "start00.tex" from package

It's not needed. Only start01.tex will be needed for the package.

Convert font001.tga to font001.png

We've since included PNG support for the font sheet. PNG should be used for two reasons:

Polymega commented 1 year ago

Note I haven't done any extensive tests with the language pack. I will be relying on you to do a thorough playtest to ensure everything is translated and accounted for. Also check and ensure riddle codes are being shown in full--it would be a bad feeling to be immersed in the game only to have a riddle that can't be solved!!

Polymega commented 1 year ago

Oh, and be sure to use this tool for editing .mes files, if you haven't been using it already: https://github.com/loadwordteam/SH2MSGConvert

HellbringerOnline commented 1 year ago

@Polymega I want to rethink the translation and make my own version, this may take several months. I also do not agree with the change in the name of the save "Toilet". When we save for the first time, we immediately get a spoiler for future locations. Perhaps I would have renamed it something else or left it as is.

Polymega commented 1 year ago

Perhaps I would have renamed it something else or left it as is.

Something to consider: Most people won't make a save right at the start, but may make a save later on in the motorhome or bar. It would be confusing for this save to simply say "Toilet" in these locations.

HellbringerOnline commented 9 months ago

Perhaps I would have renamed it something else or left it as is.

Something to consider: Most people won't make a save right at the start, but may make a save later on in the motorhome or bar. It would be confusing for this save to simply say "Toilet" in these locations.

Hello. I want to inform you that I haven't abandoned the translation, it's almost done. But it will be a pre-alpha version for now, I need to double-check the translation myself, then I need to replay the game to clarify some non-obvious interpretations. And that will become the alpha version, which I want to put out in text format for people to suggest edits, and then that will become the release version. I will most likely make edits after release as well, tell me from which version you would like to add my pack to the site?

Polymega commented 9 months ago

And that will become the alpha version, which I want to put out in text format for people to suggest edits, and then that will become the release version. I will most likely make edits after release as well, tell me from which version you would like to add my pack to the site?

Sounds good. You can send me the pack whenever you feel comfortable and confident with its quality. In terms of future updates/edits to the language pack, you can simply contact me again with your updated pack and I'll replace the old package on the site with the new one.

HellbringerOnline commented 9 months ago

And that will become the alpha version, which I want to put out in text format for people to suggest edits, and then that will become the release version. I will most likely make edits after release as well, tell me from which version you would like to add my pack to the site?

Sounds good. You can send me the pack whenever you feel comfortable and confident with its quality. In terms of future updates/edits to the language pack, you can simply contact me again with your updated pack and I'll replace the old package on the site with the new one.

Got it, I'll write when I'm sure the package is ready for release, but it may take some more time

HellbringerOnline commented 2 months ago

And that will become the alpha version, which I want to put out in text format for people to suggest edits, and then that will become the release version. I will most likely make edits after release as well, tell me from which version you would like to add my pack to the site?

Sounds good. You can send me the pack whenever you feel comfortable and confident with its quality. In terms of future updates/edits to the language pack, you can simply contact me again with your updated pack and I'll replace the old package on the site with the new one.

Hello. I heard that you have released the latest update. Is there any support planned for translation packages? I want to release the alpha version before the release of the remake. In a best case scenario, a final version.

Polymega commented 2 months ago

Hi there. Yes, we'd be happy to host/include your translation pack. For our final update, we've added some additional strings to both the r_menu_*.res file and option_msg_*.mes file.

Polymega commented 2 months ago

See here: https://github.com/elishacloud/Silent-Hill-2-Enhancements/issues/953#issue-2255321579