Boulder Worms in Gustav Tunnels don't give EXP if item level animator is equipped when automaton is summoned

[MVM1787]

Date & Time: 5/22/2021 11:16 PM

Client Version (use /ver in game):30191204_1

Character Name:Ligerzero, Hyoga, Ikki, Shun, Pseiya, Dshiryu

Discord Name (if different from in game):Ligerzero #4172

Nation:Sandy

Job(level)/Sub Job(level):Ligerzero: 99PUP/49DNC, Shun:92PUP/46MNK, Dshiryu:92PUP/46MNK, Pseiya:91PUP/45MNK, Ikki:92PUP/46MNK, Hyoga:92PUP:46MNK

NPC or Monster or item Name:Boulder Eater and Pygmytoise

Zone name: Gustav Tunnels

Coordinates (use !where):X:18 Y:-2 Z:143 (236)

Item tool link (for items issues only):

Multi-boxing? (multiple clients on same connection):yes

Steps to reproduce:out of no where the game forced closed on Pseiya, and then after that all monsters at least for the Boulder Eater stopped giving exp to Ligerzero and the rest of the party

Any additional information:

[EpicTaru]

@MVM1787, is the issue still occurring? Did you try logging all characters out then back in and reforming the party?

[MVM1787]

The issue still occurred when logging out and logging back in, even tried zoning and it was still happening

[EpicTaru]

You broke the party and reformed and it still occurred after that?

[MVM1787]

Broke the party and tried on just Ligerzero himself, and it still was happening

[EpicTaru]

Tried that with just Liger or also on any other character by themselves?

[MVM1787]

Tried that with just Liger or also on any other character by themselves?

With just liger himself, want me to try with the others as well.

[EpicTaru]

Yes please. Try with each of them by themselves

[MVM1787]

Yes please. Try with each of them by themselves

Lol they can't solo the worms or turtles yet.

[EpicTaru]

Try with the mobs in zeruhn mines, they should still give some exp to players in the 90s

[MVM1787]

Try with the mobs in zeruhn mines, they should still give some exp to players in the 90s

Confirmed, Shun, Hyoga, Ikki, Dshiryu, and Pseiya all got exp from the bats in the Zeruhn Mines.

[EpicTaru]

This is with them all in a party or solo? If they were all in a party, was Liger also in same party?

[MVM1787]

This is with them all in a party or solo? If they were all in a party, was Liger also in same party?

Solo, I'll try with party next with liger, just need to log him back in and walk him to survival guide in the tunnels.

[EpicTaru]

ok, thanks for trying all this to isolate possible causes.

[MVM1787]

ok, thanks for trying all this to isolate possible causes.

So with and without level sync no one in party gets exp from the bats in the mines.

[EpicTaru]

This is with them all in a party or solo? If they were all in a party, was Liger also in same party?

Solo, I'll try with party next with liger, just need to log him back in and walk him to survival guide in the tunnels.

You just said that they were getting exp, but without Liger in the party, correct?

[MVM1787]

This is with them all in a party or solo? If they were all in a party, was Liger also in same party?

Solo, I'll try with party next with liger, just need to log him back in and walk him to survival guide in the tunnels.

You just said that they were getting exp, but without Liger in the party, correct?

Yes while they where soloing, I'll kick liger out to see what happens then.

[EpicTaru]

Please also clarify which instances you were using level sync and who the party was syncing to/the level of the person they were syncing to

[MVM1787]

Please also clarify which instances you were using level sync and who the party was syncing to/the level of the person they were syncing to

Confirmed party gets exp off bats in Zeruhn Mines while synced with Pseiya, everyone Shun, Ikki, Dshiryu, Pseiya, and Hyoga all got exp.

[MVM1787]

Please also clarify which instances you were using level sync and who the party was syncing to/the level of the person they were syncing to

Confirmed party gets exp off bats in Zeruhn Mines while synced with Pseiya, everyone Shun, Ikki, Dshiryu, Pseiya, and Hyoga all got exp.

Level was 91PUP/35MNK which is Pseiya

[EpicTaru]

And with Liger added in, but also still having Pseiya as the sync target?

[MVM1787]

And with Liger added in, but also still having Pseiya as the sync target?

Doesn't give exp, just found out that ligerzero solo he gets limit points, but not while in party.

[MVM1787]

And with Liger added in, but also still having Pseiya as the sync target?

Doesn't give exp, just found out that ligerzero solo he gets limit points, but not while in party.

And now he's getting exp/limit points from the bats in Zeruhn Mines while being synced to Pseiya and partying with the others.

[MVM1787]

And with Liger added in, but also still having Pseiya as the sync target?

Doesn't give exp, just found out that ligerzero solo he gets limit points, but not while in party.

And now he's getting exp/limit points from the bats in Zeruhn Mines while being synced to Pseiya and partying with the others.

Only thing different with party is Shun is party leader and not Liger

[EpicTaru]

And with Liger added in, but also still having Pseiya as the sync target?

Doesn't give exp, just found out that ligerzero solo he gets limit points, but not while in party.

And now he's getting exp/limit points from the bats in Zeruhn Mines while being synced to Pseiya and partying with the others.

Only thing different with party is Shun is party leader and not Liger

But even when Liger was the leader and the party was syncing to the level of Pseiya, Liger's level would also sync down?

[MVM1787]

And with Liger added in, but also still having Pseiya as the sync target?

Doesn't give exp, just found out that ligerzero solo he gets limit points, but not while in party.

And now he's getting exp/limit points from the bats in Zeruhn Mines while being synced to Pseiya and partying with the others.

Only thing different with party is Shun is party leader and not Liger

But even when Liger was the leader and the party was syncing to the level of Pseiya, Liger's level would also sync down?

Yes it would, went back to Gustav Tunnels with shun as party leader, sadly no go, no one got exp/limit points. That was without level sync.

[EpicTaru]

This is with automatons for all characters also activated, correct? If so, attempt without any automatons activated.

[MVM1787]

This is with automatons for all characters also activated, correct? If so, attempt without any automatons activated.

Lol I can try without, but mine is a whm that keeps us alive, but just confirmed that while leveled synced to Pseiya in Gustav Tunnels we still didn't get exp.

[MVM1787]

This is with automatons for all characters also activated, correct? If so, attempt without any automatons activated.

Lol I can try without, but mine is a whm that keeps us alive, but just confirmed that while leveled synced to Pseiya in Gustav Tunnels we still didn't get exp.

Confirmed we got exp/limit points without the presence of automations.

[EpicTaru]

Re-add automatons in, one by one, until you notice the absence of exp/limit points.

[MVM1787]

This is with automatons for all characters also activated, correct? If so, attempt without any automatons activated.

Lol I can try without, but mine is a whm that keeps us alive, but just confirmed that while leveled synced to Pseiya in Gustav Tunnels we still didn't get exp.

Confirmed we got exp/limit points without the presence of automations.

Confirmed root cause of this mess is the Animator P II Ilvl 119 animator for 99 PUP, when I deactivated the puppet and reactivated him with the gimped stats from it, for sure it made the issue happen so that no one gets exp, if I remove the animator and resummon the puppet then exp/limit points work again.

[EpicTaru]

Try activating the automaton with a non-item level animator and after it's activated, switch then to the item level animator.

[MVM1787]

Try activating the automaton with a non-item level animator and after it's activated, switch then to the item level animator.

With the automation already out I swapped my turbo animator with the ilvl 119 animator Animator P II and confirmed that we still get exp/limit points, the cause only happens if you deactivate and reactivate the Automation with the ilvl 119 animator p II equipped. So overall I'm just gonna stick to my turbo animator lol.

[EpicTaru]

Try activating the automaton with a non-item level animator and after it's activated, switch then to the item level animator.

With the automation already out I swapped my turbo animator with the ilvl 119 animator Animator P II and confirmed that we still get exp/limit points, the cause only happens if you deactivate and reactivate the Automation with the ilvl 119 animator p II equipped. So overall I'm just gonna stick to my turbo animator lol.

This is a similar situation that is present with the item level sancus sachet for SMN where the avatar isn't given item level stats if the sancus sachet is currentlyequipped at the time of summoning. If the avatar is summoned without the sancus sachet eqiupped but you then switch to the sachet after the avatar is summoned, their item level stats are re-calculated.

So if you activate your automaton with the Turbo Animator and then switch to the Animator P II after the automaton is already activated/summoned, you do not notice the exp/limit point issue, correct?

[MVM1787]

Try activating the automaton with a non-item level animator and after it's activated, switch then to the item level animator.

With the automation already out I swapped my turbo animator with the ilvl 119 animator Animator P II and confirmed that we still get exp/limit points, the cause only happens if you deactivate and reactivate the Automation with the ilvl 119 animator p II equipped. So overall I'm just gonna stick to my turbo animator lol.

This is a similar situation that is present with the item level sancus sachet for SMN where the avatar isn't given item level stats if the sancus sachet is currentlyequipped at the time of summoning. If the avatar is summoned without the sancus sachet eqiupped but you then switch to the sachet after the avatar is summoned, their item level stats are re-calculated.

So if you activate your automaton with the Turbo Animator and then switch to the Animator P II after the automaton is already activated/summoned, you do not notice the exp/limit point issue, correct?

Correct the issue doesn't occur when you do that method, it happens if you activate the automation with the ilvl 119 animator equipped.

[EpicTaru]

That is a DSP issue then, not one specific to this server. I am not aware that the issue has been resolved for this and/or with the smn item, even in the current day codebase, so please utilize the stated workaround for the time being.

[Heepster03]

moved to #558