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Major issue: make explicit the assumption k > h #5

Closed defeo closed 8 years ago

defeo commented 8 years ago

p. 6 Prop 2.5: As stated this proposition places no constraints on k, but in what follows (e.g. p. 8 line 3) the authors are often assuming that k ≥ h. When k < h we have ℓ^h P = 0 and the Proposition is trivial (and this is also true if P has order less than ℓ^h). Not making this assumption explicit made the paper very confusing to read, as in several places they write expressions that may well be non-integral without this assumption in contexts where an integer is required (for example, ℤ_ℓ does not contain ℓ^(k-h) for k < h). In particular, as noted below, it is not obvious to me why, for example, line 9 of Algorithm 1 and line 7 of Algorithm 2 are well defined. On a related topic, I think there is an error in the proof of Proposition 2.5. The authors write the matrix of π | T_ℓ (E 0 ) ∈ GL₂ (ℤ_ℓ) as

  / λ    ℓ^(h-k) x(λ-μ) \
  \ 0           μ       /

where h = v_ℓ (λ - μ), and x is an integer. The entry in the upper right has ℓ-adic valuation v_ℓ (ℓ^(h-k) x(λ − μ)) = h - k + v_ℓ(x) + h, which will be negative if we choose k large and take P = R so that x = 1. I think they want to replace k - h with h - k in both the matrix and the condition on v_ℓ(x) ≥ k - h given later in the proof.

plut commented 8 years ago
defeo commented 8 years ago

Why aren't we making the explicit assumption k>h in Algorithm 1 as requested by the reviewer? Is it because the height h is not known in advance?

If so, this would slightly contradict the intro to Sec. 3, which assumes we have already constructed the Kummer tower up to the right level. Maybe we should clarify this.

defeo commented 8 years ago

Also, the fix introduced this typo in the statement of Prop. 2.5:

ℓ^h P is an eigenvector of E → ℓ^h is an eigenvector of π

plut commented 8 years ago

@defeo Line 10 of Algorithm 1 computes h (or at least, h' = min (k, h), as stated in the algorithm output)

defeo commented 8 years ago

Isn't "previous discussion" better than "preceding discussion"? (frankly, I don't really know)

defeo commented 8 years ago

More typos:

We note here that the matrices → We note here that the matrix

defeo commented 8 years ago

And yet one more typo introduced in the proof of Prop. 2.7 (I think this is the last one):

we just note that since there exists a unique subgroup of order ℓ which either ascending or horizontal with a given direction

Maybe add "is" after "which"?