Open philljenkins opened 9 months ago
Phill and Josiah met briefly and determined to open an issue to determine future consideration and prioritize our recommendations.
Checking the AskHR Chatbot shows the complexity, in this screenshot, the component in error is off-screen
triage: rewrite the issue,
also see #1056 about how the Checker KCM should handle components that float on the page.
@marcjohlic Issue re-written to create a prioritized list of possible improvements to the Checker, as it relates to Chatbots. Then, to-be-determined if one or more can then be implemented in this release.
@tombrunet Do you want to make these/one of these approaches more generic or as proposed more specific to common Chatbot-like behaviors?
Moving to Release backlog to be considered in this release.
This is not an Engine Issue, but an Extension issue (changed Epic). No rule changes are needed or are in scope. Because this is about notifying the user and/or adding a setting, Design should be included.
However, this initial task is more of a technical discussion (as noted above in the description) to determine what the Checker can do.
@shunguo added:
an auto-page refresh has other impacts too. For example, go to https://finance.yahoo.com/calendar/, scan the page, wait a little while, then click a Violation (message row), user will see the original scan results disappear (depending on timing) and a message replacing it: "This page has not been scanned." displayed. Checker extension needs a better handling of the developer-side (not user initiated) page refresh.
But this (reload whole page vs change in DOM) is probably a separate issue/feature. The user is told by the Checker that the page has not been scanned, although not told it was "re-loaded" and not told why. Also, the Checker does not tell that this is a separate accessibility issue that the developer should fix, namely reloading (WCAG uses "auto-updating") the page content without end-user knowing about it:
2.2.2 Pause, Stop, Hide (Level A) For moving, blinking, scrolling, or auto-updating information, all of the following are true: ... For any auto-updating information that ... there is a mechanism for the user to pause, stop, or hide it or to control the frequency ... unless ... essential.
3.2.5 Change on Request (Level AAA) Changes of context are initiated only by user request or a mechanism is available to turn off such changes.
Pages with Chatbot implementations often delay the loading and/or frequently update the page. The Checker users, especially those who are not developers of the page being tested, do not know that the Chactbot contents (or page) were changed, or will soon be changed, which results in confusing Checker results, especially in the Keyboard Checker Mode visualizations.
Some ideas and approaches to consider:
Test with these IBM ChatBots:
Use these 3 chatbot implementations as test cases to determine how best to improve the Checker for checking AI Chatbots:
Address the following questions and explore best approaches:
How to reproduce the issue
What to do
Why is this important?