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Tower/Monopile Properties in Excel sheet don't match yaml file #116

Open jennirinker opened 1 year ago

jennirinker commented 1 year ago

Description

The parameters listed in the "Tower Properties" tab on the Documentation tabular Excel don't match the values in the IEA-15-240 yaml file. For example, here is what I have from the yaml after adding extra values for discretization (it starts from 0 instead of 15, sorry...):

s [m]  OD [m]    t [mm]
   0.000   10.0m    39.5mm
   0.001   10.0m    39.5mm
  13.000   10.0m    39.5mm
  13.001    9.9m    33.4mm
  26.000    9.9m    33.4mm
  26.001    9.4m    34.1mm
  39.000    9.4m    34.1mm
...

versus the Excel:

15  10  41.058
15.001  10  39.496
28  10  39.496
28.001  10  36.456
41  9.926   36.456
41.001  9.926   33.779
54  9.443   33.779

Steps to reproduce issue

I've pushed branch tower_monopile. There I modified the tower script in the HAWC2 fixed-bottom folder so it (1) properly accounts for the discretized tower properties and (2) cross-references with the Excel sheet to see if there are discrepancies. It makes some nice plots too -- could be useful to see why OpenFAST properties don't match with HAWC2. Note the branch is a WIP, as I'm hoping to get a draft of the monopile included soon (fixed at mudline, no soil model yet).

Current behavior

The Excel and yaml don't seem to be synchronized.

Expected behavior

I would expect the Excel and yaml to be synchronized.

Code versions

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jennirinker commented 1 year ago

This is also relevant for the monopile. Values from the yaml:

s [m]  OD [m]    t [mm]
   0.000   10.0m    55.3mm
  45.000   10.0m    55.3mm
  45.001   10.0m    55.3mm
  55.000   10.0m    55.3mm
  55.001   10.0m    47.7mm
  65.000   10.0m    47.7mm
...

Values from the Excel:

-75 10  55.341
-30 10  55.341
-29.999 10  55.341
-20 10  55.341
-19.999 10  51.509
-10 10  51.509
...
gbarter commented 1 year ago

I agree that the YAML and Excel should be the same to avoid confusion. I think the Excel is currently carrying with it some WISDEM-specific assumptions about tower manufacturing. Essentially, WISDEM assumes a constant plate thickness for a tower section because you typically roll a flat plate trapezoid shape to make a conical section. So, along the tower height, you can have linearly varying diameter that change slope at the nodes in the yaml file, but are stuck with jumps in piecewise-constant thickness. To resolve this, WISDEM assumes that the constant plate thickness of a tower section is the average of the values at the yaml nodes: 51.5 = (55.3+47.7)/2. We could have easily just taken the first value as the constant for the next section and ignored the last value. Hopefully I'm making sense here.

On one hand, this is an assumption that is unique to WISDEM and shouldn't be in the reference model, on the other hand it does seem realistic as having a linearly varying thickness profile along the tabulated values is difficult to achieve in practice.

I am open to suggestions about how best to move forward.

ALBERTUTRERA commented 2 months ago

I agree that the YAML and Excel should be the same to avoid confusion. I think the Excel is currently carrying with it some WISDEM-specific assumptions about tower manufacturing. Essentially, WISDEM assumes a constant plate thickness for a tower section because you typically roll a flat plate trapezoid shape to make a conical section. So, along the tower height, you can have linearly varying diameter that change slope at the nodes in the yaml file, but are stuck with jumps in piecewise-constant thickness. To resolve this, WISDEM assumes that the constant plate thickness of a tower section is the average of the values at the yaml nodes: 51.5 = (55.3+47.7)/2. We could have easily just taken the first value as the constant for the next section and ignored the last value. Hopefully I'm making sense here.

On one hand, this is an assumption that is unique to WISDEM and shouldn't be in the reference model, on the other hand it does seem realistic as having a linearly varying thickness profile along the tabulated values is difficult to achieve in practice.

I am open to suggestions about how best to move forward.

Hi @gbarter, So what you are saying in this message is that we could change the thickness value at the tower start (height=15 m) from 41.058 to 39,496, right?

Thank u

gbarter commented 2 months ago

Maybe I don't understand the question fully. The tower base has a thickness of 39.496mm from here. The monopile top has a thickness of 41.058mm from here. The reference turbine does not have a detailed design of a transition piece which would couple those two.

The comment of piecewise-constant vs linear taper of thickness was along the tower or along the monopile, not at the interface between the two.