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Unusual evolution of idling aero loads with yaw misalignment #75

Closed R-Quancard closed 2 years ago

R-Quancard commented 2 years ago

Hi,

I am trying to assess the basic aerodynamic thrust loads obtained with the OpenFAST model of the 15MW RWT, in idling conditions and with the wind arriving from different directions (with a fixed yaw so that I am simulating yaw misalignments from 0° to +/-180°). I subtract the part of the load that's due to the rotor's weight, in order to look at aerodynamic loads only. I am looking at the projection of those loads along the rotor axis.

The results obtained are unusual - I say this after checking on various other WTG models, all of which gave results similar to a sine wave: with the IEA-15-240-RWT, these aerodynamic loads become negative as soon as the yaw misalignment reaches a few degrees (around 5°) and go to a minimum around 30°. They go up and down while remaining negative except in the close vicinity of 0°.

I have translated the model to Bladed and obtained a very similar response. Disabling blade flexibility has a negligible impact, so I can at least say that this is not due to an erroneous setup of blade structural properties.

Could you please help me understand this unusual behaviour?

Thanks, Romain

jjonkman commented 2 years ago

Dear @R-Quancard,

Can you share a plot of what you are describing? I have a hard time visualizing the result you are describing.

And just to confirm, presumably you are modeling the idling rotor with:

Is that correct?

Best regards,

R-Quancard commented 2 years ago

Dear @jjonkman,

Thanks for such a prompt reply. I confirm that we followed the recommendations for idling simulations, including the 3 points you mentioned.

You will see below three plots:

IEA15_Idling_OpenFAST

IEA15_Idling_Bladed

DTU10_Idling_Bladed

Thanks for your help, Best regards,

Romain

Edit: there was a mistake in the pitch angle of the DTU 10MW simulation plotted - the third figure was replaced

jjonkman commented 2 years ago

Dear @R-Quancard,

Thanks for clarifying. A couple more clarifying questions:

In the last plot for the DTU 10-MW, I don't really understand what you are showing. With the blades feathered to 90 degrees, I would expect the rotor thrust to be near zero at 0, 180, and 360 degrees and maximum at 90 and 270 degrees yaw angle. Please clarify.

In your plots for the IEA 15-MW, I'm not sure I fully understand what I'm seeing yet (the answers to my questions above will hopefully help me). But with structural flexibility enabled, I would expect to see a blade edgewise / tower side-side instability for certain yaw angles (about 20-40 degrees and 320-340 degrees, which would occur due the angle of attack being in a region of a negative lift slope. This has been noticed for many other turbines, e.g. as discussed for the NREL 5-MW baseline turbine on our forum here: https://wind.nrel.gov/forum/wind/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1219&p=13703. I'm not sure I understand the "wiggles" between 60-300 degrees yaw, but if the wind is steady, perhaps the rotor is settling out at different azimuth angles at different wind speeds. Normally, these load cases would be run with turbulent wind inflow, where the response would be analyzed statistically (in terms of min, mean, max, etc.).

Best regards,

R-Quancard commented 2 years ago

Dear @jjonkman,

First, my apologies: there was a mistake in the pitch angle used to obtain the DTU 10MW plot in my previous message; you will see that it was replaced by a new plot with two "inner waves" that weren't there before.

Like I said we are looking at the projection of the aerodynamic loads along the rotor axis, which in OpenFAST is done by taking the variable RotThrust and subtracting the part of the weight it contains (using the sine of the shaft's tilt angle). If I'm not mistaken, this RotThrust variable is a projection along the shaft axis, regardless of the wind direction. In Bladed, we also look at the force on the hub directed along the shaft, that includes all the loads on the rotor (here we removed the weight components as well). It seems to me that the rotor thrust you say you were expecting corresponds to the aerodynamic loads projected along the wind direction, and not along the shaft axis as we are representing it here.

Regarding the two questions you ask:

In the light of the corrected DTU 10MW plot, the IEA 15MW curve does not look that different - although it is still more "wiggly" as you put it yourself. Note that when testing with a WTG model based on the NREL's 5MW reference (see plot below), we obtain quite a different curve shape which is closer to what we saw on some other WTG models (industrial ones). But anyway, our new corrected tests (including the DTU 10MW one) look more similar to the IEA 15MW's, so the differences don't look like much to worry about and are probably only due to blade designs that are quite different.

Thanks for your help, Best regards,

Romain

NREL 5MW: NREL5_Idling_Bladed

jjonkman commented 2 years ago

Dear @R-Quancard,

OK, thanks for the clarification and the correction. I'm glad the results make more sense to you now.

I agree with your explanation of the ElastoDyn RotThrust output. Please note that if you want the pure aerodynamic thrust (also projected along the shaft axis), without having to subtract out the rotor-weight component, you can use AeroDyn's RtAeroFxh output instead of RotThrust.

I would be curious to see if making the wind turbine completely rigid (disabling all structural DOFs) would result in a change to the behavior; this would certainly eliminate any potential for an aero-elastic instability effecting the results.

Best regards,