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Issues with Soil Codelists #33

Closed KathiSchleidt closed 5 months ago

KathiSchleidt commented 2 years ago

When reviewing the INSPIRE Soil Data Models and Codelists during work for EEA ETC-DI, I noticed two minor issues in the codelists:

WRB Qualifier Place https://inspire.ec.europa.eu/codelist/WRBQualifierPlaceValue The definition states that this non-extendable codelist shall have the values "prefix" and "suffix". Unfortunately, these values are missing. The inclusion of these 2 required concepts has no impact on the IRs (also require exactly these 2 values)

measure taken stage value https://inspire.ec.europa.eu/codelist/MeasureTakenStageValue This entry currently has the wrong label "measure taken status value". This causes confusion with https://inspire.ec.europa.eu/codelist/MeasureTakenStatusValue, that actually has this name!

KathiSchleidt commented 2 years ago

A further issue pertains to the location of the document underpinning the following codelists:

Link references: ftp://ftp.fao.org/agl/agll/docs/guidel_soil_descr.pdf Should be: http://www.fao.org/3/a-a0541e.pdf

jescriu commented 2 years ago

Dear @KathiSchleidt,

Regarding your 1st post:

When reviewing the INSPIRE Soil Data Models and Codelists during work for EEA ETC-DI, I noticed two minor issues in the codelists:

WRB Qualifier Place https://inspire.ec.europa.eu/codelist/WRBQualifierPlaceValue The definition states that this non-extendable codelist shall have the values "prefix" and "suffix". Unfortunately, these values are missing. The inclusion of these 2 required concepts has no impact on the IRs (also require exactly these 2 values)

measure taken stage value https://inspire.ec.europa.eu/codelist/MeasureTakenStageValue This entry currently has the wrong label "measure taken status value". This causes confusion with https://inspire.ec.europa.eu/codelist/MeasureTakenStatusValue, that actually has this name!

I agree that both requests should be processed and corrected in the INSPIRE Registry as quickly as possible, since they are just the amendment of lacks / typos.

Regarding your 2nd post:

A further issue pertains to the location of the document underpinning the following codelists:

FAO Horizon Master
FAO Horizon Subordinate
FAO Prime

Link references: ftp://ftp.fao.org/agl/agll/docs/guidel_soil_descr.pdf Should be: http://www.fao.org/3/a-a0541e.pdf

Exactly the same, since this is just an update of the document location. For each of these 3 last code lists, would be any way to point to a specific section of the FAO 'Guidelines for Soil Description'? (e.g. a bookmark in the document). Probably this will require FAO attention.

Best, Jordi

KathiSchleidt commented 2 years ago

Dear @jescriu, On FAO Document location, I fear this is a bit of a moving target from the FAO side - at least I remember having already provided an update for this document a few years ago. Not sure if we can influence the FAO, or just do our best to keep up with current document location. We have been making progress in digitizing the content of both the FAO and WRB Codelists under Soil (both just reference a PDF, provide page numbers, but no referenceable concepts), the digitized versions are currently being checked by ISRIC. Once these have been validated, we will provide them for import to the Registry. :) Kathi

jescriu commented 2 years ago

Thank you for you answer, @KathiSchleidt, At the end, this would not be needed if the code list are included and managed in the INSPIRE Registry in the future.

ldesousa commented 2 years ago

Dear all,

in attachment is the list of WRB qualifiers digitised from the 2007 edition document. This list corresponds to the type WRBQualifierValue used on the WRBQualifier property of the WRBQualifierGroupType class. These qualifies match the RSGs already published online by the JRC (also digitised from 2007 edition). Please let me know if you find any errors or need additional information.

qualifiersWRB.xlsx

ldesousa commented 2 years ago

Dear all,

attached another batch of code-lists. This time the genetic horizon classifications, as defined in the FAO Guidelines for Soil Description. Also the WRB qualifier place code-list that is still missing. The first sheet identifies the code-lists and provides the long descriptions. Please let me know if something is amiss.

Regards.

AddicionalCodelistsINSPIRE.xlsx

KathiSchleidt commented 1 year ago

Any progress on this issue? I believe we've clarified the point that these are NOT new codelists or entries, just a digital form suitable for Re3gistry import of the content of the textual documents that were originally referenced (but impossible to provide an xlink to a value in a table in a PDF document)

Any information on why this has been delayed for close to a year now?

arantzaetxebarria commented 1 year ago

Dear @KathiSchleidt

This change proposal has recently been presented and accepted in the 74th MIG-T meeting on 28 April. After the 2 weeks objection period given to the MIG, if there are no objections, proposals will start to be introduced in the INSPIRE Registry.

We will keep you updated during the process.

Regards

jescriu commented 1 year ago

Dear @KathiSchleidt,

As @arantzaetxebarria stated above, there was formal acceptance of the change proposals under #33 in the 74 MIG-T Meeting, where it was endorsed the new governance of the INSPIRE Registry (the role of Control body was finally commissioned to the MIG - See updated ToR).

Some changes forming part of the (initial) proposal were already in production. For the rest, which were indeed a bit hidden under the spreadsheet provided on 2 June 2022 (and not explicitly explained in this thread), it will be implemented now by the INSPIRE Registry manager (provided that the Submitting organisation states that no changes have been applied to the original definitions from the original FAO documents referenced - since in all cases the code lists affected were externally-referenced code lists from FAO).

There are several reasons for the delay, but basically during this time several long-effort tasks have been tackled by the team:

Having achieved these steps, the contractors acting as INSPIRE Registry manager will be progressively processing the backlog of change proposals to the content of the INSPIRE Registry.

KathiSchleidt commented 1 year ago

@ldesousa can you please confirm that the codelists provided are an exact copy of the original FAO document contents currently cited?

ldesousa commented 1 year ago

@ldesousa can you please confirm that the codelists provided are an exact copy of the original FAO document contents currently cited?

I confirm. These code-lists correspond to the 2007 edition of the Word Reference Base of Soil Resources. This document is currently not on-line.

arantzaetxebarria commented 11 months ago

Dear @KathiSchleidt @ldesousa

We would like to inform you that most of the change proposals have been successfully published:

Label correction in https://inspire.ec.europa.eu/codelist/MeasureTakenStageValue

Link reference in: FAO Master [FAO Sub](https://inspire.ec.europa.eu/document/FaoSub FAO Prime

New items for https://inspire.ec.europa.eu/codelist/WRBQualifierPlaceValue FAO Horizon Master FAO Horizon Subordinate FAO Prime

Unfortunately, the new items for WRBQualifierValue, are not visible in the table below the parent, but they are accessible one by one e.g https://inspire.ec.europa.eu/codelist/WRBQualifierValue/Novic We are trying to solve this problem due to software complications that are not easy to fix.

We apologise for the inconvenience.

Regards

KathiSchleidt commented 10 months ago

@arantzaetxebarria MANY THANKS!!! Good things take time :)

On the WRBQualifier Value, any ideas why this one codelist doesn't play nice? Did we do something wrong in the import structure?

arantzaetxebarria commented 9 months ago

Dear @KathiSchleidt

We are working on it, trying to see where the error could be, we think it is a problem in the caching process. As soon as we have news, we will inform you.

Regards

arantzaetxebarria commented 8 months ago

Dear @KathiSchleidt

I would like to inform you that once the problem affecting this codelist WRBQualifierValue has been solved, now the table with available items is visible. Please confirm that everything is correct and if you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact us.

Regards

Arantza