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ISAAK social media #6

Open MoritzMennenga opened 6 years ago

MoritzMennenga commented 6 years ago

We decided to open an issue for the social media accounts. If anyone who doesn't have an account for facebook, twitter, ..... likes to share something you can use this issue. And we like to use it to organize the posts.

quassinja commented 6 years ago

Can anyone in this group who is going to Tübingen post here the timetable for our Sessions and talks so we can post them as Veranstaltungen on Facebook? I guess everyone in Tübingen will Twitter anyways and I`ve send the LogIn Data for the ISAAK Twitter account to everyone so you can use your personal and the ISAAK Account for that.

I would also like to do the same for the EAA so as soon as we have a schedule for that it would be nice to get that information too :)

ctietze91 commented 6 years ago

Following I'll list the already existing videos on Youtube. In case anybody has some time to spare and wants to post something she/he can choose the next one in line and (please) check off the one you did. I'll extend the list as it goes.

We aim for one each week in order to spread them out and reach more people.

MartinHinz commented 6 years ago

Thank you for pointing out the typo. If you wish to know what there is still to be processed and waiting for the upload:

http://martinhinz.de/screencasts/

Will, whenever there is time, attach the new intro.

What is really missing are some english versions... Wouldn't that be something for you, @ctietze91? Double Benefit, being visible and improving your R foo? :-)

ctietze91 commented 6 years ago

No prob. Will be my first thing on the list after my MA thesis is done in June :). Also thought about creating some subs for the german videos in english and the other way around for the english.

MartinHinz commented 6 years ago

June, I see... Then, I am afraid, our English followers have to be satisfied with my broken English and my ugly face. But lets see who of us has an available slot for such a side project at first

Subs are suboptimal, I would say.

jemedeiros commented 4 years ago

Hi,

my name is José Eduardo and I am writing from Freiburg. I thought, I could maybe use this issue to communicate with you guys.

Would anyone be interested in building a kind of independent observatory of "portable antiquities schemes" i.e. of the joint work of heritage institutions with hobby archaeologists with metaldetectors?

The most famous one is the PAS in UK finds.org.uk. But now there are other projects forming or established around europe like in Holland, Danemark and Finnland. I worked on the PAS-UK years ago in my Masters Thesis and it was specific to the hoards of the Late Bronze Age.

I have a very humble not very clean written pilot of the project in my personal website that you can find on github too https://jemedeiros.github.io/pas_project.html . But I can't seem to find the time to really get the project going right now all by myself (after creating a small written introduction, a distribution map and adding some numbers to the website I have not had the time to continue.) and I do not have the knowledge of all other metall ages to be able to judge what are interesting desirable results and which are not for every period.

So I was thinking maybe we could make this a collective collaborative project?

The idea is not to map the distribution of each specific find, nor to duplicate the information of the original websites.

But to rather have a small summary of what is happening from a group of researchers who are at least in theory "independent", since we do not work in these projects. In principle, I thought that the information should be gathered and analysed on the website and not by uploading graphs worked on in the desktop. But not all sites have an easy clean and organized json formatted data for export. Some have different access levels. And the data is not always ready for analysis. So there will be complications of this kind too.

The idea is to then get an idea of what is the overall distribution and density? Which periods have the most findings registered? Where is the registration voluntary where not? Does the kinds of objects registered show any biases in the willingsness to register finds of some periods or some types? And then find a way to compare the results between different regions. Which programm is most effective? Which ones are, I don't know, destroying the information and the finds? Which one achieves best their educational and their heritage objectives? Which one have the greatest absolute numbers? And relatively? And so on...

As you can see it is hard to do this alone. And I was thinking maybe I could find like minded individuals here? Hopefully. Some of you might even program really quick in javascript or maybe be able to suggest another language.

The project is something for my free time, so there is really no pressure. We could slowly develop it together at our own pace. Create a collective to-do table to slowly build it. Most importantly: it should be fun. If this go forward I would only like to be quoted as the initiator but otherwise every developing step is free.

Would that interest anybody?

Best wishes,

José Eduardo

chrinne commented 4 years ago

Dear Eduardo,

whenn I had a look on finds.org.uk several years ago I thought great, it fosters communication and could be a good way to integrate metal detecting into the official heritage work.

In Germany the cultural heritage is organized in the "Länder" and the "poltical" statements in each concerning metal detector are very different. It's like, to step into a trap which meens the most work would have to go into talking about the social and cultural benefit. Most important, it should be started in colaboration with at least one official heritage office.

Just a spontaneous remark. Likely there are more informations and opinions in the list.

Best Christoph

as a general start you might have a look on this documnet, anfortunately in German. http://dguf.webseiten.cc/fileadmin/user_upload/Arbeitskreise/Kulturgutschutz/Handreichungen/DGUF-Dok_2012_Flyer_Raubgraeber-Schatzsucher-Sondengaenger.pdf

Am 20.07.2020 um 18:22 schrieb José Eduardo:

Hi,

my name is José Eduardo and I am writing from Freiburg. I thought, I could maybe use this issue to communicate with you guys.

Would anyone be interested in building a kind of independent observatory of "portable antiquities schemes" i.e. of the joint work of heritage institutions with hobby archaeologists with metaldetectors?

The most famous one is the PAS in UK finds.org.uk. But now there are other projects forming or established around europe like in Holland, Danemark and Finnland. I worked on the PAS-UK years ago in my Masters Thesis and it was specific to the hoards of the Late Bronze Age.

I have a very humble not very clean written pilot of the project in my personal website that you can find on github too https://jemedeiros.github.io/pas_project.html . But I can't seem to find the time to really get the project going right now all by myself /(after creating a small written introduction, a distribution map and adding some numbers to the website I have not had the time to continue.)/ and I do not have the knowledge of all other metall ages to be able to judge what are interesting desirable results and which are not for every period.

So I was thinking maybe we could make this a collective collaborative project?

The idea is not to map the distribution of each specific find, nor to duplicate the information of the original websites.

But to rather have a small summary of what is happening from a group of researchers who are at least in theory "independent", since we do not work in these projects. In principle, I thought that the information should be gathered and analysed on the website and not by uploading graphs worked on in the desktop. But not all sites have an easy clean and organized json formatted data for export. Some have different access levels. And the data is not always ready for analysis. So there will be complications of this kind too.

The idea is to then get an idea of what is the overall distribution and density? Which periods have the most findings registered? Where is the registration voluntary where not? Does the kinds of objects registered show any biases in the willingsness to register finds of some periods or some types? And then find a way to compare the results between different regions. Which programm is most effective? Which ones are, I don't know, destroying the information and the finds? Which one achieves best their educational and their heritage objectives? Which one have the greatest absolute numbers? And relatively? And so on...

As you can see it is hard to do this alone. And I was thinking maybe I could find like minded individuals here? Hopefully. Some of you might even program really quick in javascript or maybe be able to suggest another language.

The project is something for my free time, so there is really no pressure. We could slowly develop it together at our own pace. Create a collective to-do table to slowly build it. Most importantly: it should be fun. If this go forward I would only like to be quoted as the initiator but otherwise every developing step is free.

Would that interest anybody?

Best wishes,

José Eduardo

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nevrome commented 4 years ago

But not all sites have an easy clean and organized json formatted data for export.

Are there ANY sites/excavations that have that? :wink:

As Christoph already said: It's difficult to come up with a plan like this for Germany. There are so many stakeholders involved (heritage offices, universities, excavation companies, associations, ...) and the whole heritage sector is highly decentralized.

I think the core issue is a lack of standards and open data. We may have to wait for initiatives like NFDI (e.g. https://www.nfdi4objects.net/) to blaze a trail first. Your expertise might be a good fit there and they're searching for collaborators afaik.

jemedeiros commented 4 years ago

Thank you guys for your feedback.

I did not intend to do anything with Germany, but rather just display the data from the already existing programs in other countries.

I was not aware of the NFDI. Thank you @nevrome And I totally agree that the lack of orientation regarding how to deal with open data is an interesting problem.

So thank you for your feedback. I will get back in touch again soon.