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mac:operation contains a mandatory mac:parentOperation #80

Open fxprunayre opened 9 years ago

fxprunayre commented 9 years ago

It sounds like an infinite loop ? mac:parentOperation should not be mandatory. I may be wrong - just asking (and don't have the standards to check cardinality).

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See https://github.com/ISO-TC211/XML/blob/master/standards.iso.org/19115/-3/mac/1.0/2014-12-25/acquisitionInformationImagery.xsd#L314

tobiasspears commented 9 years ago

I tend to agree François

I have requested copies of the specs in order to verify.

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From: François Prunayre [mailto:notifications@github.com] Sent: March 13, 2015 10:09 AM To: ISO-TC211/XML Subject: [XML] mac:operation contains a mandatory mac:parentOperation (#80)

It sounds like an infinite loop ? mac:parentOperation should not be mandatory. I may be wrong - just asking (and don't have the standards to check cardinality).

[image]https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/1701393/6638817/115bdc68-c98a-11e4-9255-a7627701ffb2.png

See https://github.com/ISO-TC211/XML/blob/master/standards.iso.org/19115/-3/mac/1.0/2014-12-25/acquisitionInformationImagery.xsd#L314

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PeterParslow commented 9 years ago

A good catch. The error is there in ISO 19115-2:2009 Figure A.9 & B.2.5.6 (at least, in the ‘sent to ISO’ text I have squirrelled away).

We should fix it, get the HMMG to fix the harmonized model, and let Dave Danko know – resolution 682 names him as the project lead for revising 19115-2:2009 – I’ve cc’d him.

Peter

From: tobiasspears [mailto:notifications@github.com] Sent: 13 March 2015 13:51 To: ISO-TC211/XML Subject: Re: [XML] mac:operation contains a mandatory mac:parentOperation (#80)

I tend to agree François

I have requested copies of the specs in order to verify.

Regards,

Tobias Spears Head, Ocean Data and Information Section Government of Canada | Gouvernement du Canada tobias.spears@dfo-mpo.gc.camailto:tobias.spears@dfo-mpo.gc.camailto:tobias.spears@dfo-mpo.gc.ca%3cmailto:tobias.spears@dfo-mpo.gc.ca Telephone | Téléphone 902tel:902%20426%204849 456 8546 (new telephone number | nouveau numéro de telephone)

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From: François Prunayre [mailto:notifications@github.com] Sent: March 13, 2015 10:09 AM To: ISO-TC211/XML Subject: [XML] mac:operation contains a mandatory mac:parentOperation (#80)

It sounds like an infinite loop ? mac:parentOperation should not be mandatory. I may be wrong - just asking (and don't have the standards to check cardinality).

[image]https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/1701393/6638817/115bdc68-c98a-11e4-9255-a7627701ffb2.png

See https://github.com/ISO-TC211/XML/blob/master/standards.iso.org/19115/-3/mac/1.0/2014-12-25/acquisitionInformationImagery.xsd#L314

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tobiasspears commented 9 years ago

Thanks Peter :)

From: PeterParslow [mailto:notifications@github.com] Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 12:16 PM To: ISO-TC211/XML XML@noreply.github.com Cc: Spears, Tobias W Subject: Re: [XML] mac:operation contains a mandatory mac:parentOperation (#80)

A good catch. The error is there in ISO 19115-2:2009 Figure A.9 & B.2.5.6 (at least, in the ‘sent to ISO’ text I have squirrelled away).

We should fix it, get the HMMG to fix the harmonized model, and let Dave Danko know – resolution 682 names him as the project lead for revising 19115-2:2009 – I’ve cc’d him.

Peter

From: tobiasspears [mailto:notifications@github.com] Sent: 13 March 2015 13:51 To: ISO-TC211/XML Subject: Re: [XML] mac:operation contains a mandatory mac:parentOperation (#80)

I tend to agree François

I have requested copies of the specs in order to verify.

Regards,

Tobias Spears Head, Ocean Data and Information Section Government of Canada | Gouvernement du Canada tobias.spears@dfo-mpo.gc.camailto:tobias.spears@dfo-mpo.gc.camailto:tobias.spears@dfo-mpo.gc.ca%3cmailto:tobias.spears@dfo-mpo.gc.ca Telephone | Téléphone 902tel:902%20426%204849 456 8546 (new telephone number | nouveau numéro de telephone)

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From: François Prunayre [mailto:notifications@github.com] Sent: March 13, 2015 10:09 AM To: ISO-TC211/XML Subject: [XML] mac:operation contains a mandatory mac:parentOperation (#80)

It sounds like an infinite loop ? mac:parentOperation should not be mandatory. I may be wrong - just asking (and don't have the standards to check cardinality).

[image]https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/1701393/6638817/115bdc68-c98a-11e4-9255-a7627701ffb2.png

See https://github.com/ISO-TC211/XML/blob/master/standards.iso.org/19115/-3/mac/1.0/2014-12-25/acquisitionInformationImagery.xsd#L314

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PeterParslow commented 9 years ago

Noted,

Thanks,

Dave

David M. Danko | Senior Consultant GIS Standards

From: Peter Parslow [mailto:Peter.Parslow@os.uk] Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 11:17 AM To: ISO-TC211/XML; ISO-TC211/XML Cc: David Danko Subject: RE: [XML] mac:operation contains a mandatory mac:parentOperation (#80)

A good catch. The error is there in ISO 19115-2:2009 Figure A.9 & B.2.5.6 (at least, in the ‘sent to ISO’ text I have squirrelled away).

We should fix it, get the HMMG to fix the harmonized model, and let Dave Danko know – resolution 682 names him as the project lead for revising 19115-2:2009 – I’ve cc’d him.

Peter

From: tobiasspears [mailto:notifications@github.com] Sent: 13 March 2015 13:51 To: ISO-TC211/XML Subject: Re: [XML] mac:operation contains a mandatory mac:parentOperation (#80)

I tend to agree François

I have requested copies of the specs in order to verify.

Regards,

Tobias Spears Head, Ocean Data and Information Section Government of Canada | Gouvernement du Canada tobias.spears@dfo-mpo.gc.camailto:tobias.spears@dfo-mpo.gc.camailto:tobias.spears@dfo-mpo.gc.ca%3cmailto:tobias.spears@dfo-mpo.gc.ca Telephone | Téléphone 902tel:902%20426%204849 456 8546 (new telephone number | nouveau numéro de telephone)

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From: François Prunayre [mailto:notifications@github.com] Sent: March 13, 2015 10:09 AM To: ISO-TC211/XML Subject: [XML] mac:operation contains a mandatory mac:parentOperation (#80)

It sounds like an infinite loop ? mac:parentOperation should not be mandatory. I may be wrong - just asking (and don't have the standards to check cardinality).

[image]https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/1701393/6638817/115bdc68-c98a-11e4-9255-a7627701ffb2.png

See https://github.com/ISO-TC211/XML/blob/master/standards.iso.org/19115/-3/mac/1.0/2014-12-25/acquisitionInformationImagery.xsd#L314

— Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHubhttps://github.com/ISO-TC211/XML/issues/80.

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fxprunayre commented 9 years ago

XSD fix for that https://github.com/ISO-TC211/XML/pull/135 (which should also probably be propagated to the UML sources)

smrgeoinfo commented 9 years ago

+1 the model makes both ends of the parent-child aggregation navigable; the cardinality in the model is conceptual-- if there is a child (an optional role) then conceptually there must be a parent. In general I think its better practice for interoperability to make only the parent--> child direction navigable, but if we're going to include both, then the child--> parent has to be optional.

135 should be merged. @tedhabermann, I'll leave the merge to you.