Server Side

[IndianBoy42]

Overall Structure

The classic structure is called the MVC app, thats Model(data), View(interface), Controller(process)

• [ ] Database (Model)
  • [ ] User accounts and profile
  • [ ] Products, and all related info
• [ ] Front-End (View) (Issue #2):
  • [ ] Web user interface
  • [ ] HTTP interface (common to Web, iOS and Android)
• [ ] Back-End (Controller):
  • Handle shit
  • [ ] Payments
  • [ ] Shipping
  • [ ] Posts, Comments, Discussion, whatevs

    Languages?

• Back-End
  • I am very comfortable with Rust-Lang, but its not well known, and may be hard for others to learn
  • Otherwise Scala, Java, Kotlin or even Python, Ruby (albeit slower) can be used, we just have to find a proper framework/library to help us
• Database
  • probably MySQL or PostgreSQL(i know a bit of Postgre)

    Discussion

Who wants to do what?
Any suggestions?

[IndianBoy42]

Some example of Web Frameworks we can use.

Java

• Jersey - https://jersey.java.net/
• Spark - http://sparkjava.com/
• Play - https://www.playframework.com/ (Although it is written in and for Scala)

Scala

• Play - https://www.playframework.com/
• Finatra - http://twitter.github.io/finatra/
• Scalatra - http://scalatra.org/
• Lift - http://liftweb.net/
• Spray - http://spray.io/

Ruby

• Sinatra - http://www.sinatrarb.com/
• Ruby on Rails (one of the most famous) - http://rubyonrails.org/
• LotusRb - http://lotusrb.org/
• PadrinoRb - http://www.padrinorb.com/

Python

• Django (also famous) - https://www.djangoproject.com/
• BottlePy - http://bottlepy.org/docs/dev/index.html
• Flask - http://flask.pocoo.org/

Go

• Vanilla Go - http://rcrowley.org/talks/gophercon-2014.html
• Revel - https://revel.github.io/
• Goji - https://goji.io/
• Echo - http://labstack.com/echo
• Gin - https://gin-gonic.github.io/gin/
• Gorilla - http://www.gorillatoolkit.org/
• Thats a shit ton of libraries... wow

My Thoughts

Java is kind of an antiquated language, its verbose and lacks some modern features, but that means its tried and true, and reliable. Scala is cutting-edge, modern, full of features, and compatible with Java, but slower and more complicated and messy. I personally really like it, alot more than Java. Ruby and Python are both very nice languages and are very easy to learn and start programming in quickly, but they are less performant (because they are interpreted languages). Go, I've heard its pretty good, fast but easy to learn and use, but I havent used it enough to really know, although the language was literally designed for Servers Other lesser known languages are: Kotlin, which tries to follow in Scala's footsteps in terms of being a more modern Java, but is less complicated and easier to learn. Rust, a replacement for C/C++, fast, modern, low-level, I like this, but it might be hard to learn.

I'll update this with more info of each framework later. Anyone have any suggestions?

[IndianBoy42]

Domain:

• [ ] bulkrshop.com - 1st year 199rs, after 959rs
• [ ] bulkrshop.in - 1st year 99rs, after 599rs
• [x] bulkr.co.in - 1st year 99rs, after 549rs

[rajlego]

I like bulkr.co.in since we keep the original name and I'd like to keep it consistent.

[IndianBoy42]

EVERYONE!! Go through the links and do like 5mins of research... find one that looks like you'll be able to understand and use... seriously not that hard just fucking decide something already people

[IndianBoy42]

I'm starting to lean verrry heavily towards Python based ones, i played around with bottle.py for the house app dev and it was nice, along with web.py and flask it seems to be very easy to learn and use. so its basically perfect.

[rajlego]

Chekin' with me friend on what he did for logins he made

[rajlego]

for his site

[rajlego]

yo I wanna learn some of the python server stuff. Which stuff should I start with?

[IndianBoy42]

i think we should use Flask so just use the tutorials and play around with it

[rajlego]

how come flask? I checked their page and the Hello World and it looks kinda complicated why not just stick with Python's easy syntax? What advantage